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02:43 SamB_MacG5: hmm, scribble needs something like docheck for interactions ...
02:44 SamB_MacG5: ... there are an awful lot of unexplained error messages in its output :-(
02:45 SamB_MacG5: hmm, these ones are supposed to be here though
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04:17 Cryovat: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/leonardo/blog/2012/10/02/open-z3.html
04:17 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/9ja6gho
04:17 Cryovat: A bit over my head, but might be of interest to others here
04:20 Cryovat: Hmm
04:20 Cryovat: Seems like the license is of the code is non-commercial only, that makes things a lot less interesting :/
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08:52 Thelas: What does this mean? "let: unbound identifier;  also, no #%app syntax transformer is bound"
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09:40 samth: Thelas: it means that you're trying to run something in an environment where nothing at all is available
09:41 samth: are you using `eval`
09:41 samth: ?
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09:45 Thelas: samth: Yes, I'm using eval, but write-ing out the code I'm trying to eval and then eval-ing that in Interactions works fine...
09:46 samth: Thelas: the interactions window behaves differently wrt `eval` than the definitions window
09:46 samth: or rather, the REPL is different than inside a module
09:46 samth: but you will need to set the `current-namespace` to some namespace that contains the bindings you want
09:47 Thelas: Suppose the binding that's missing is (include-tempate ...) then.
09:47 samth: see http://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/eval.html?q=eval#%28part._namespaces%29
09:48 samth: and also: http://blog.racket-lang.org/2011/10/on-eval-in-dynamic-languages-generally.html
09:48 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/62xs38x
09:52 Thelas: alright, the error appears to have been fixed.  Thanks for the help.
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11:29 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Provide `provide' in the DMdA languages. - Mike Sperber
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12:27 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] This pattern of typed submodules exposes Racket bugs. - Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
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14:00 jonrafkind: hm I have a struct-type with an init-field count of 5 but im only passing 4 fields to the make procedure for it
14:02 jonrafkind: oh brother, i had somehow changed 4 to 5 while editing and got confused
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15:24 Thelas: I'm working on something in the Racket web server, and would like to include images and css in html that I'm sending out.  Currently they're in images and css folders inside htdocs, and the site asks for them as "./images/[...]" and "./css/[...]", but this doesn't appear to work. How should I be doing this?
15:27 asumu: Thelas: have you looked at "static-files-path"?
15:27 asumu: rudybot: (require web-server/insta)
15:27 rudybot: asumu: error: default-load-handler: cannot open input file: "/mnt/racket-5.2.900.1/collects/web-server/insta.rkt" (No such file or directory; errno=2)
15:27 asumu: rudybot: doc static-files-path
15:27 rudybot: asumu: no docs for a current binding, but provided by: web-server/insta
15:28 asumu: http://docs.racket-lang.org/web-server/run.html?q=static-files-path#(def._((lib._web-server/insta/insta..rkt)._static-files-path)) <-- that
15:28 asumu: Look at the Continue tutorial for how to use it.
15:31 Thelas: I'm currently using full racket to serve the page (as opposed to insta), so I don't think I can use that?
15:32 Thelas: Or can I require insta even if I've already required servlet-env and have a serve/servlet expression without breaking things?
15:33 asumu: You might want to customize the #:extra-files-path or #:server-root-path options for serve/servlet.
15:33 asumu: (at least, that's my guess. I don't use the webserver much)
15:33 (part) pnpuff: "."
15:34 Thelas: I'll try that, but I thought it served htdocs? At the very least, templates in htdocs work fine for (include- template ...), even though css in htdocs/css/ and images in htdocs/images/ aren't working.
15:35 asumu: Maybe it doesn't do subdirectories? You might try adding the subdirs to the extra files path.
15:38 Thelas: That doesn't appear to have worked (at least, I can't change the tail of the URL to the name of a file in the css directory and get a real page.)
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15:39 asumu: Hmm, I don't know then. Maybe try the mailing list.
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15:59 SamB_MacG5 doesn't suppose racket has properties on its names, which could be used for configuring indentation categories and such ...
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16:21 carleastlund: SamB_MacG5, really depends on what you're intending to do.
16:21 SamB_MacG5: pondering, mostly
16:23 carleastlund: Well, what I mean is what sort of indentation mechanism you want to plug in to.  Or ponder plugging in to.
16:24 mimosa: I am trying to package racket for Salix, a Slackware-based distro. However, the drracket launcher script has an incorrect path - the bindir variable is set to the temporary location in the build directory instead of /usr as specified by the --prefix switch. Any ideas?
16:25 carleastlund: That sounds like a question for eli, mimosa.  He's the build maintainer.
16:25 SamB_MacG5: carleastlund: well, basically I was wondering if it would be possible to inform DrRacket about the nature of a form when defining it
16:26 SamB_MacG5: (after some hypothetical changes or extension)
16:26 mimosa: Thanks Carl. Where can I find him - here, at another time, or elsewhere?
16:27 carleastlund: SamB_MacG5, in theory yes, you can associate arbitrary info with the expanded form of a program, then DrRacket's Check Syntax tool can read it out.  An indentation plugin could hook into that.
16:27 carleastlund: mimosa, he's in this channel, now that I mentioned his name above he should respond sooner or later.
16:27 SamB_MacG5: oh, I hadn't thought of doing it like that
16:28 carleastlund: Check Syntax: our big hammer for program metadata in DrRacket :)
16:28 SamB_MacG5: that does sound a bit more likely than turning racket into an n-lisp ;-)
16:30 SamB_MacG5: (especially seeing how it's symbols don't even *possess* packages)
16:30 carleastlund: Let us please never mention the p-word on this channel again.
16:30 SamB_MacG5: sorry
16:30 SamB_MacG5: I know it's horrifying
16:30 mimosa: Carl, thanks again :)
16:32 SamB_MacG5 saw the problem when he was toying with the idea of implementing Abuse's lisp under CL
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19:58 neilv: hm. i tried running macro stepper on a web-server servlet, and pegged one of my cpu cores for over a minute before linux oom-killed drracket
20:01 neilv: actually, not a servlet. just vlc.rkt, which doesn't have that much dependencies. i bet trigger is something in the (pretty simple) macros i'm using
20:01 neilv: it's reproducible, with a fresh drracket process
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20:15 neilv: if i comment-out all uses of this one macro, then macro-stepper doesn't get drracket killed for taking 2GB of ram
20:17 neilv: ok, if i fix some of the "#," to only splice in syntax-objects, not symbols and strings, then it's ok
20:31 neilv: of course my minimal test case is too minimal, though
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20:52 neilv: macro-stepper seems to be taking a crazy amount of time and space even when it succeeds. i wonder whether that's part of the cause -- not an infinite loop, but just lots and lots of computation
20:54 neilv: there we go. this one finished after a few minutes of crunching, and multiple cycles of getting to around 1.5GB and then gc-ing down to around 800MB
20:57 neilv: oh wait. but if left my Definitions window blank afterwards
20:59 neilv: this just sidetracked a very productive run of coding for a couple hours
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22:35 neilv: rackout can now operate dvd menus. http://i.imgur.com/51xhO.png
22:43 jonrafkind: but can it operate my lung machine?
22:43 nilyaK: but does it blend?
22:58 neilv: blending would require an arduino
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23:50 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] change the dir field of the multi file search dialog - Robby Findler
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