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02:26 mithos28: raco make is so so very broken
02:27 jonrafkind: whys that
02:28 mithos28: I raco make code. It fails. I change dependency, remake code. It still fails. I remove compiled directory, remake code, and it passes.
02:29 jonrafkind: so some macro expansion needed to happen?
02:29 mithos28: This happened many times to me with no version control messing up time stamps
02:29 jonrafkind: sometimes I have to erase the compiled directory if I'm messing around with lang's
02:29 jonrafkind: which is insanely annoying
02:29 mithos28: I'm just changing template code
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02:30 mithos28: that is phase -1 syntax in the original module, which is phase 0 code in the second one
02:32 jonrafkind: so a macro in the second module was supposed to re-expand when the template code in the original module was changed
02:32 mithos28: yeah
02:32 jonrafkind: sounds reasonable, im not sure how dependancy tracking works
02:32 jonrafkind: although I assumed it looked at the 'require' forms
02:33 jonrafkind: if there is a require at any phase then if that required module is touched the original module should be recompiled
02:33 jonrafkind: original == the requiring module
02:33 mithos28: where touched is changed sha hash
02:33 mithos28: yeah that was my understanding
02:33 jonrafkind: could be just a simple bug..
02:34 mithos28: yeah, but I thought matthew was perfect so that couldn't be it
02:34 jonrafkind: lulz
02:34 mithos28: The problem is that I don't have a repeatable case
02:35 jonrafkind: isn't it a simple matter of making some phase -1 code in module a, and using it in a macro in module b?
02:35 mithos28: Let me try. I'm going to guess that will not bring it up.
02:35 jonrafkind: actually I would guess using macros has nothing to do with it
02:35 jonrafkind: so something else must be screwed up
02:36 jonrafkind: anyway i gotta sleep..
02:36 mithos28: night.
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08:42 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] adjust planet tests to use 'raco planet' command-line tool, not 'planet' - Robby Findler
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08:43 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] up the timeout for the no-write-and-frame-leak.rkt drracket test - Robby Findler
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09:54 shakes808: Is there a way to change focus from the top half to the bottom half and vice versa?
09:55 noelw: In DrRacket?
09:55 noelw: I think Ctrl-x o will do it
09:55 shakes808: YEs
09:55 noelw: Maybe f5? I forget
09:57 shakes808: Nope. F5 and F6 seem to get rid of the bottom window and then rerun it or something
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09:58 shakes808: That has been my work around instead of switching, but wanted to know how to keep up the executed code window
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09:58 noelw: There is an option to turn on extra keybindings
09:58 noelw: If you turn them on you should get control-x o
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10:00 shakes808: Looks like it has a place to upload your own but I don't know the first thing about that kind of stuff.
10:02 noelw: Go to preferences
10:02 noelw: editing
10:02 noelw: general
10:03 noelw: Turn off "enable keybindings in menus"
10:03 noelw: viola!
10:03 noelw: #t
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10:18 soegaard: I have problem setting up an evaluator for Scribble examples.
10:19 soegaard: https://github.com/soegaard/racket/blob/master/collects/math/scribblings/reference/number-theory.scrbl
10:19 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/cs44szb
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10:19 soegaard: I keep getting:              divides?: undefined;   cannot reference undefined identifier
10:19 soegaard: Even though divides? is exported from racket/math
10:20 soegaard: Am I missing the obvious? (I suspect I am)
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10:32 soegaard: Never mind - I have found the obvious mistake
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10:48 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] make record-disappeared-uses call syntax-local-introduce - Robby Findler
10:48 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] adjust redex so that identifiers preserve their syntax-original ness - Robby Findler
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11:04 shakes808: noelw: sorry had an impromptu meeting of sorts. I went into preferences > editing > general  and unchecked "enable keybindings in menus"
11:05 shakes808: Still can't find how you switch from top to bottom
11:05 shakes808: What is #t?
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11:08 chandler: #t is truth.
11:08 noelw: Control-x o
11:09 chandler: rudybot: eval (equal? 42 42)
11:09 rudybot: chandler: your sandbox is ready
11:09 rudybot: chandler: ; Value: #t
11:11 noelw: Got it working?
11:22 shakes808: nope.
11:22 shakes808: Control + x + o?
11:23 noelw: Control + x, then release Control and press o
11:23 shakes808: ... OOOOOH ok. :D works
11:23 shakes808: Thank you
11:23 noelw: groovy
11:26 shakes808: Is there a way I can change it?
11:27 noelw: Yes, but I don't know the details
11:28 shakes808: gotcha. Well, thank you for assisting me with that much. I appreciate it.
11:28 shakes808: You have a good day.
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12:39 soegaard: Anyone seen this error?
12:39 soegaard: raco setup: bootstrapping from source...
12:39 soegaard: collects/racket/private/kw.rkt:57:34: prop:method-arity-error: unbound identifier in module
12:39 soegaard: in: prop:method-arity-error
12:39 soegaard: context...:
12:39 soegaard: standard-module-name-resolver
12:46 soegaard: Figured it out. The property prop:method-arity-error is new, and thus I need to make a new build.
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13:43 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] refinement to recent commit suggested by Ryan - Robby Findler
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16:35 water_sheep: one question: I know that typed racket doesn't have classes, but can I still call classes from untyped racket and if yes, how?
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17:04 asumu: water_sheep: You mean can you instantiate and send methods to an untyped class from typed racket?
17:04 asumu: (the answer is "not yet")
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17:34 samth: asumu: the answer is "kind of"
17:34 samth: but not really
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19:11 asumu: This is neat: http://recursive-labs.com/blog/2012/08/22/scheme-programming-intro/
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