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03:42 dgs_: dumb question probably, but if I have a struct (define-struct mail (from date message)) how can I define a reference to it? I'm trying (define MAIL (make-mail "dave"  0 "hello")), but that raises an error function call: expected a function after the open parenthesis, but received (make-mail "dave" 0 "hello")
03:43 dgs_: i'm wanting to use this as an argument to check-expect - e.g. (check-expect (something  MAIL) (something-else MAIL)
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03:45 ben_m: Can you pastebin that code? Because that looks correct.
03:46 ben_m: Unless the error is with check-expect
03:46 dgs_: oh
03:47 dgs_: fsck
03:47 dgs_: it is correct =/
03:47 dgs_: it was the way I was trying to reference it after it was defined that was wrong@
03:47 dgs_: doh!
03:47 dgs_: thanks though =)
03:47 dgs_: i was trying to fix entirely the wrong thing !
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07:19 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] remove debugging - Matthias Felleisen
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08:57 tim-brown: greetings
09:00 offby1 nods sleepily
09:32 offby1: .oO("owt"?)
09:32 offby1: is that a Britishism?
09:33 offby1 slaps tim-brown upside the haid
09:33 offby1: that's for your .sig
09:36 tim-brown: i won't change it, i tell you
09:36 tim-brown: i won't change it!
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09:36 tim-brown: owt = anything
09:36 tim-brown: nowt = nothing
09:37 offby1: gosh ... I wonder if I could find the etymology of those
09:37 offby1: "nowt" might relate to "nought"
09:38 tim-brown: it's dialect -- not sure how you etymologise (?) dialect
09:38 offby1: Northern too
09:38 tim-brown: up north, users of the dialect won't say "anything" or "nothing"
09:39 tim-brown: otoh, i use owt and nowt to keep in touch with my roots"
09:39 tim-brown: roots!
09:40 offby1: I slap people "upside the haid" instead of "on the side of the head" for the same reason.
09:40 offby1: consider yourself rooted
09:40 rudybot slaps tim-brown upside the haid too
09:40 offby1: mini-me ^^
09:40 tim-brown: HEY!!
09:41 tim-brown: to get you in the mood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSzPGrazPo
09:41 offby1: What's five quid to the bloody Midland nak?!
09:41 offby1: Oh wait that's the poetry of Ewen McTeagle
09:42 tim-brown: off topic.... is this getting me any closer to places that work?
09:43 tim-brown: or, offby1, do you just skip to the bottom of emails to critique the signatures?
09:43 offby1: God Help me, that Python is still funny
09:43 offby1 sniffles
09:43 offby1: I still miss Graham Chapman
09:43 offby1: tim-brown: seriously -- I've never used places :-(
09:45 tim-brown: fair enough... i'll take comfort in the fact that *someone* read my mail
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09:46 tim-brown: where is rudybot's source code?
09:46 offby1: let's ask him, shall we?
09:46 offby1: rudybot: source
09:46 rudybot: *offby1: git clone git://github.com/offby1/rudybot.git
09:46 offby1 nods gravely
09:47 tim-brown: truly your minime
09:48 offby1: once in a while other people talk to him too
09:48 tim-brown: more than that, from what i've seen
09:48 tim-brown: rudybot: good bot!
09:48 rudybot: tim-brown: is jlf` a bot?
09:49 tim-brown: rudybot: are you a bot?
09:49 rudybot: tim-brown: the bot is right :)
09:51 mrcarrot: what can rudybot do?
09:51 mrcarrot: rudybot: help
09:51 rudybot: mrcarrot: bug <more> ..., help [<what>], version, quote, source, url, seen <nick>, uptime, init [<lang>], eval <expr> ..., give <to> <expr> ..., apropos <str> ..., desc <id>, doc <id>
09:51 offby1: mrcarrot: in the "arguably useful" category: eval scheme/racket/etc code; shorten URLs; report when someone was last seen
09:52 offby1: rudybot: (+ 1 2 3)
09:52 rudybot: *offby1: ; Value: 6
09:52 offby1: rudybot: seen tim-brown
09:52 rudybot: *offby1: tim-brown was seen in #racket three minutes ago, saying "rudybot: good bot!", and then tim-brown was seen in #racket two minutes ago, saying "rudybot: are you a bot?"
09:53 offby1: mrcarrot: the killer app though is the weird semi-random way he responds when he doesn't actually understand
09:53 offby1: rudybot: give an example
09:53 rudybot: *offby1: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: example in module: 'program
09:53 offby1: well, not _that_ :)
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09:53 offby1: rudybot: please give an example
09:53 rudybot: *offby1: Lists are not a JS type, so I can use them how I please.
09:53 offby1: *nod
09:53 offby1: ("give" is actually a command and I misused it, so ...)
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09:53 offby1: rudybot: are you related to Dr Weizenbaum's "Eliza"?
09:53 rudybot: *offby1: There are multiple help modules. Try ``/msg minion help kind'', where kind is one of: "lookups", "helping others", "adding terms", "aliasing terms", "forgetting", "memos", "avoiding memos", "nicknames", "goodies", "eliza", "advice", "apropos", "acronyms".
10:08 mrcarrot: rudybot: is it nice weather today?
10:08 rudybot: mrcarrot: “Though the film takes place in Blackeberg, a suburb of Stockholm, the film principal photography was shot in Luleå in the north of Sweden, to ensure enough snow and cold weather.”
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10:56 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Improve git intro text. - Eli Barzilay
10:56 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Improvements to the "support" section of the community page. - Eli Barzilay
10:56 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Don't compile test files. - Eli Barzilay
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11:05 offby1 idly wonders how Racketcommitbot picks three comments from 13 commits
11:06 asumu: Nice, a new JSON collects in that push.
11:06 noelw: Heh. Bad choice of comments it seems
11:07 tewk: tim-brown: Got your email, it appears to be a bug, working on it now.
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11:13 tim-brown: tewk: thamls
11:13 tim-brown: thanks
11:14 mrcarrot is a bit hoping somebody is fixing the same fast the bug i reported today as the one i reported yesterday
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11:16 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] special case string snips that contain only newlines. This gets an - Robby Findler
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11:23 danking: stamourv, eli: I'm back from the dead (Spring break). If I was to get started on something scsh-like it wouldn't be until the summer. I'll be sure to ping you before I delve into that.
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11:29 asumu: danking: you could apply for GSoC and get paid to do it.
11:29 asumu: (assuming we get accepted as an org)
11:30 danking: asumu: I have to complete another co-op :/. Maybe if things fall through with Jane Street and CERN
11:30 asumu: Although you are already a brainwashed Racketeer, so maybe we should find other fresh meat. ;)
11:30 asumu: Oh I see.
11:30 danking: haha
11:30 asumu: danking: Also, CERN? That sounds really cool.
11:30 asumu: Would you work on the LHC?
11:31 danking: asumu: Yeah, the NU LHC group brings 3 students with them to the CMS experiment
11:31 asumu: Nice.
11:31 danking: :D
11:31 danking: Now If I could just get Olin to write a damned letter of recommendation...
11:31 danking: ^Today's first order of business.
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11:32 offby1 calls the /me police on mrcarrot
11:32 offby1: pronoun agreement, son; pronoun agreement
11:33 offby1: danking: don't piss him off
11:38 mrcarrot: 17:06  * offby1 idly wonders how Racketcommitbot picks three comments from 13 commits
11:38 mrcarrot: 17:15  * mrcarrot is a bit hoping somebody is fixing the same fast the bug i reported today as the one i  reported yesterday
11:38 mrcarrot: who did use /me first?
11:39 danking: "3 students with it"?
11:40 ben_m: Is there a simple way to get a window that can display 2htdp/image things?
11:40 ben_m: Without creating a frame and a canvas etc.
11:40 danking: asumu: I think the Fundies 2 crowd would be ripe for GSoC. They're really frustrated with Java's verbosity and by extension the real pain in the ass that comes with making lambdas.
11:41 offby1: mrcarrot: I'm afraid your use of /me violates the Freenode guidelines, section E, part II(a): "All messages prefixed with /me must refer to the speaker in the third person, for consistency  Violations of this rule will lead to loss of drinking privileges".
11:41 offby1: So hand over that Sambuca
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11:41 mrcarrot: ajaj.. that was what i did wrong :)
11:42 mrcarrot: that is sometimes happening when i am tired
11:42 offby1: yes, Sambuca will do that
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11:53 danking: Haha, the Racket installer reminds me of pokemon "A previous Racket uninstaller is found"!
11:53 offby1 talks about mining
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12:03 asumu: ben_m: you can use big-bang to draw your image.
12:03 ben_m: I just found that, but it seems to crash Geiser :/
12:04 ben_m: Works fine in DrRacket though
12:05 asumu: If you're in DrRacket just evaluating the image at the interactions window will work too.
12:05 asumu: No idea why that would crash Geiser. Weird.
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12:38 shen_: Hey, community: this great language ( http://www.shenlanguage.org ) is made by only one man! And this superior documentation too: http://www.shenlanguage.org/Documentation/Reference/FPQi/page000.htm
12:38 shen_: and how many people were written (very poor, comparing to Shen) documentation for the racket? How many? Ten, twenty... hundred?? HAHAHAHA
12:39 shen_: (now i'm expecting ban :)
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12:47 shen_: if I enable "online compilation" feature in DrRacket (on Windows 7 64-bit), then DrRacket crashes! What should I do (other than forget Racket and switch to beautiful Shen)?
12:48 mithos28: replicate it and submit a bug report
12:49 mithos28: It is not enabled by default because of similar issues
12:49 shen_: but what I shoud submit? Application simply stop
12:49 mithos28: Can you run it from a  terminal, it might output something there? I'm not sure how to do that on windows
12:50 shen_: you run DrRacket on Linux?
12:50 mithos28: also If you have simple steps, that always causes it to stop then that should be good enough
12:50 mithos28: OS X
12:50 mithos28: and have run it on linux
12:50 shen_: does it crash on your machine when you enable online compilation?
12:51 mithos28: I haven't used it in a while, and when I do program racket I do so in the command line
12:51 mithos28: I just remember that from the mailing list
12:51 shen_: oh
12:52 mithos28: Also are you using the most recent version of racket?
12:52 shen_: Yeah, it's 5.2.1
12:53 shen_: mithos, which editor do you use for Racket programming?
12:53 mithos28: vi
12:53 mithos28: actually vim
12:53 shen_: some plugin?
12:53 mithos28: to run racket? no, just switch terminals
12:54 shen_: end copy & paste in repl?
12:54 mithos28: the command line racket has a repl, which is usually good enough
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12:55 shen_: i know, but i mean, do you just copy text from vi in racket repl while you program?
12:55 mithos28: I usually do batch mode testing, with editing a test file and running that
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12:55 shen_: aha
12:56 shen_: how come you do not use DrRacket?
12:56 mithos28: I like the repl, but without a convenient way to incrementally update macros its hard to play around with
12:57 mithos28: because I am accustomed to vim
12:58 shen_: that's ok, but DrRacket resets everything when you press "start" button, so you don't have to think about not updating macros, etc
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12:58 mithos28: which is the batch behavior, I can get the same behavior in the command line
12:59 mithos28: its enter!
12:59 mithos28: rudybot: doc enter!
12:59 rudybot: mithos28: your sandbox is ready
12:59 rudybot: mithos28: no docs for a current binding, but provided by: racket/enter, racket/init
12:59 mithos28: rudybot (require racket/init)
12:59 mithos28: rudybod: (require racket/init)
12:59 mithos28: rudybot: (require racket/init)
12:59 rudybot: mithos28: Done.
12:59 mithos28: rudybot: doc enter!
12:59 rudybot: mithos28: http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/enter.html#(form._((lib._racket%2Fenter..rkt)._enter!))
13:00 mithos28: Also misspellings like that are why i dislike repls
13:00 mithos28: but that is really not the repls fault
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13:02 shen_: noel, how goes with scala thing?
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13:04 shen_: i've heard that untyped used racket in the past for web development but switchend to scala
13:04 shen_: no wonder hehehe
13:04 jonrafkind: where did you hear that
13:04 shen_: on internet :)
13:05 itasyno: I want a provide a data structure I made as a module. I am wondering what is the idiomatic way to manage global state in Racket? My ds has things like fill-pointers and mark vectors, etc. Would I use the Racket class system? Closures w/ msg passing? Or just leave the global state as it is wrapped up in the module?
13:05 jonrafkind: well now.. that decision is up to you
13:06 jonrafkind: if you don't know what to pick then the class system will do alright
13:06 itasyno: Thanks jonrafkind
13:07 shen_: if you look at this blog: http://untyped.com/untyping/ you will see many Scala articles in the last months and none racket, hehehe
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13:08 tim-brown: night all
13:09 tim-brown: night rudybot
13:09 tim-brown: rudybot: be like that, then
13:09 rudybot: tim-brown: (i like it when people tell me, "vi is installed on EVERY unix system", and then i type "vi", and it says "command not found")
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13:10 shen_: however, my claim is: nobody is using Racket for web development.Even untyped get up and shifted to scala
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13:11 shen_: and jay is the most responsible for that (hint: poor doc for web development in Racket)
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13:18 shen_: Oh, boring... Are there some girl for me? (I want to marry a rich girl so never again have to work any longer!)
13:18 shen_: hahaha
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13:20 shen_: eh, I mispelled this like "realitygirl" :)
13:22 shen_: eli, I just miss you! So how are you? :)
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13:59 jeapostrophe: shen_: responsible for what?
13:59 jeapostrophe: oh
14:00 jeapostrophe: for no one using it because my docs aren't good?
14:00 shen_: exactly! :)
14:03 jeapostrophe: my opinion is that the docs are fine but what is missing is tutorials and copy&paste-able stuff
14:03 jeapostrophe: as a reference manual, i'm not sure how it could be better, but if you look at what people use to learn about things like ROR, etc, they aren't reading docs
14:04 jeapostrophe: they are reading tutorials, books, etc
14:04 shen_: ok
14:04 shen_: you're right
14:04 jeapostrophe: you could say it is my fault for not writing those
14:05 jeapostrophe: but i think i would do a bad job, it would be better for a user to write them
14:05 jeapostrophe: but my bad job is better than nothing, probably
14:05 jeapostrophe: there is the Continue tutorial, but is very rudimentary
14:05 shen_: other can't write because they don't understand and that's closed circle
14:05 jeapostrophe: i'm not sure how much of that is a Web server problem and how much is Racket problem
14:06 jeapostrophe: the whole idea of the Web server is that a Web program is just a Racket program
14:06 shen_: ask noelw
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14:06 shen_: why he switched to scala?
14:06 jeapostrophe: there's no additional design ideas that are necessary, in my mind
14:07 jonrafkind: the web server enforces a certain kind of design. i tried to use it once or twice, its not so easy
14:07 jeapostrophe: i'd be interested to know, but i would feel impolite to ask him... like he owes us an explanation or something
14:07 jeapostrophe: jonrafkind: what do you mean?
14:07 shen_: jay, one question: could racket be used for massive web sites like twitter or facebook? would it scale? (continuations etc?)
14:07 jeapostrophe: it's design is just that a Web site is a function from a request to a response
14:07 jonrafkind: well at least it provides a set of primitives that you should understand to use the web-server properly, send/suspend, thats not a stricly racket thing, its built out of racket primitives of course
14:08 jeapostrophe: shen_: If you used serializable continuations, then yes, in so much as Racket scales
14:08 jeapostrophe: shen_: Racket could have a lot better low-level thread/IO infrastructure to make it scale better
14:08 Tyr42: are those working yet?
14:08 jeapostrophe: Tyr42: they've been working for years
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14:09 shen_: of course noelw doesn't owe an explanation, but still...
14:09 jeapostrophe: jonrafkind: ya, you need to learn send/suspend but that helps preserve the "servlet : request -> response" model which means it doesn't really require any new model
14:10 jonrafkind: you know the fact that you are trying to convince me that its not hard is a problem in of itself
14:10 jeapostrophe: the problem is that in general web programming is so different than normal programming, that when people look for how to use racket, they don't see similar things
14:10 jeapostrophe: jonrafkind: sorry
14:10 jeapostrophe: jonrafkind: why do you find send/suspend hard to think about using?
14:11 jonrafkind: ok well slightly bad example, to some extent you are right, if you can understand continuations (big IF) then send/suspend is not that hard. i understand continuations, and send/suspend was not the issue for me. its been a while so i forget exactly what issues i ran into
14:12 jonrafkind: i just meant that the web server uses some abstractions that you must understand, like send/suspend
14:12 shen_: i want nice url-s, but don't know how to get that
14:12 jonrafkind: i mean it doesn't map one to one onto continuations, so while understanding continuations helps, its not the entire story
14:12 jeapostrophe: jonrafkind: ya, you're right. i suppose i could try to explain that abstraction at a big level
14:13 jeapostrophe: basically take the PLAI chapter/etc and turn it into to something in the docs
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14:13 jeapostrophe: shen_: web-server/dispatch gives nice urls
14:13 shen_: nice url-s and continuations, all in one pack?
14:14 jeapostrophe: shen_: ya, send/suspend uses what url you started with
14:14 jeapostrophe: shen_: and when you use send/suspend/hidden, then the continuation component is not exposed in the URL
14:14 shen_: but where?
14:14 jeapostrophe: what do you mean "but where?"
14:15 shen_: using send/suspend/hidden continuation is not "visible" in url, but question is: where it is now?
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14:15 shen_: in the cookie?
14:16 shen_: in the hidden field?
14:16 shen_: ???
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14:17 jeapostrophe: you put it where you want, it becomes your responsibility to include it somewhere, typically in a hidden field
14:17 shen_: but then onli POST works
14:18 jeapostrophe: what is the alternative?
14:19 shen_: it would be nice if someone make web tutorial "how to make blog engine with nice urls and with templates"
14:20 shen_: oh, I forgot: are there any ajax support, partial page rendering?
14:21 shen_: something for making easy to bild modern web apps
14:21 jeapostrophe: shen_: i'm not sure what support there would be, what html you choose to send doesn't really have much to do with the server
14:21 shen_: ok
14:21 shen_: i understand that
14:21 shen_: but libraries for generating html
14:22 shen_: you see, when someone use ROR, it's all there!
14:22 shen_: in one place
14:23 jeapostrophe: sorry, i'm not sure what you think isn't there
14:23 shen_: ajax? web dialogs (in jquery style) etc etc
14:24 shen_: suppose you have to write new gmail app in racket
14:24 shen_: how would you do it?
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14:26 jeapostrophe: that's just what html and JS you generate, there's nothing really special that needs to happen for the server
14:28 jeapostrophe: sorry, gtg
14:28 jeapostrophe: <3
14:28 jeapostrophe: xoxo
14:28 (nick) samth_away -> samth
14:28 shen_: ok, but what other tool you would use to build complex app like gmail
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15:15 tim-brown2: running racket on windows cli
15:16 tim-brown2: making it do what should be 100% work
15:17 tim-brown2: not gettinf more than about 60 percent load
15:17 tim-brown2: much disappointed
15:17 tim-brown2: Any ideas?
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15:18 offby1: caffeine?
15:18 offby1: meth?
15:18 offby1: threats?
15:19 offby1: maybe you've got two CPUs and it's only using one?
15:19 tim-brown2: For performance issues
15:19 tim-brown2: Not disappointment
15:19 tim-brown2: Yep 6 core
15:20 tim-brown2: Why would racket hop processors so much though?
15:20 offby1: no idea
15:20 offby1: I doubt racket is asking to do that; I don't think racket (yet) knows about multiple CPUs; I assume the OS is doing that.
15:27 tim-brown2: Mmm
15:28 tim-brown2: It's a matter of confidence that i'm getting a corrs worth on the John
15:28 tim-brown2: Damn Swype
15:28 tim-brown2: Cores
15:28 tim-brown2: Job
15:29 chandler: tim-brown2: don't pay attention to *what* CPU is being used; look at the overall utilization
15:29 chandler: the answer usually comes back to synchronization
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15:31 tim-brown2: Fact is that if I unleash 6 places upon it,I get full utilization
15:32 tim-brown2: Just  looks slightly different to the way Linux schedules
15:32 chandler: I'm a little confused. I thought you said that you only saw 60% utilization.
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15:37 tim-brown2: Sorry, 6 places is another program
15:38 tim-brown2: I was gripping about single "threaded" spinner
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15:39 tim-brown2: Thanks guys, you've given me comfort that all is as well as can be :)
15:39 tim-brown2: Night all
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15:50 samth: jeapostrophe: i think something like sinatra (and the sinatra README) is what's missing from the web server
15:51 samth: jeapostrophe: but, having just written a web app in racket, the continue tutorial was really helpful
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16:37 jeapostrophe: samth: we could definitely make something like that
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17:29 __rahul__: Hello all, i have a file which contains a bunch of numbers, one number per line. I would like to read that into a list of numbers. What is the best way to do this?
17:30 jeapostrophe: __rahul__: port->list
17:31 samth: __rahul__: or just `file->list'
17:31 samth: rudybot: doc file->list
17:31 rudybot: samth: your sandbox is ready
17:31 rudybot: samth: http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/Filesystem.html#(def._((lib._racket%2Ffile..rkt)._file-~3elist))
17:31 samth: jeapostrophe: sometimes i think those functions are the most useful racket code i've written :)
17:32 offby1: I appreciate 'em when I use 'em
17:32 chandler: file->list is *awesome*.
17:32 samth: it's like 3 lines of code to write, but it's really nice not to have to write them
17:32 offby1: jaw-slackeningly amazing
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17:33 ben_m: I wish I had a local rudybot
17:34 samth: ben_m: can't you just start up racket?
17:35 ben_m: The doc thing is handy :D
17:35 chandler: raco doc does the same thing, doesn't it?
17:37 __rahul__: thanks guys that is awesome
17:38 chandler: Hm. I wonder how many other people would find an `in-file' and `in-file-lines' sequence constructor useful.
17:39 samth: chandler: send me a pull req!
17:39 samth: i would find it useful
17:39 DanBurton: I'm trying to run drracket, but it's giving me this error: ffi-lib: couldn't open "libcaro.so.2" (libcairo.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory). What's weird is that /usr/lib/libcario.so.2 does exist =/
17:39 chandler: Heh. That requires that I figure out how to use git. :-)
17:39 chandler: Maybe I'll tackle that this evening.
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17:39 offby1: chandler: how would those be different from `in-port' and `in-port-lines' ?
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17:40 samth: offby1: they would call open-input-file (and close-input-port) for you
17:40 chandler: Less typing, and immediate closure of the port when EOF is reached.
17:40 samth: just like `file->lines'
17:41 offby1: ah
17:41 samth: in the current script hackery i'm doing, i think i have one local variable that exists only so i can close a port passed to `in-lines' and one unclosed port because i didn't bother
17:41 samth: so it would be useful to me
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17:50 chandler: samth: hm; on second thought, do you think it might be an attractive nuisance when people use multiple sequences in an iteration?
17:50 offby1: ooh I love that phrase
17:50 offby1: be a good name for a band
17:50 chandler: attractive nuisance?
17:51 offby1: *nod
17:51 offby1: too late!
17:51 offby1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSORUO5AKQ8
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18:35 samth: chandler: because it wouldn't close if another sequence stops early?
18:36 chandler: yeah
18:37 ben_m: I have the stupidest reasons to like Racket.
18:37 ben_m: As a long time Common Lisp programmer, I got excited because curry is in Racket and I don't have to code it myself
18:39 samth: chandler: you could "fix" it with a finalizer
18:40 samth: probably the sequence api should be extended to support this
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18:43 asumu: samth: the sequence api is weird in general in that it doesn't look like prop:dict or prop:stream.
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20:17 RPR: Are mutually recursive typed struct: possible?  (struct: A ([b : B])) (struct: B ([a : A]))
20:20 offby1: doubt it.
20:21 offby1: well, but you said "typed", so that throws my intuition off; I hereby replace my answer with "I dunno".
20:23 RPR: samth_away: come back.. :)
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20:34 RPR: It does with no special syntax required.  Typo.
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