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15:06 samth: rapacity: how's that for quick service?
15:07 rapacity: that's fast :p
15:07 samth: rapacity: it was a really easy fix
15:07 rapacity: thanks
15:08 samth: rapacity: glad you're using my software
15:08 samth: rapacity: matthias says that if you have bug reports, then you exist
15:09 samth: so i try to be grateful to my bug reporters, since they maintain my existence
15:09 rapacity: :p
15:09 samth: although i'm now working on generating bug reports programmaticlly :)
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15:44 iisjmii: chandler: Are you still here?
15:44 iisjmii: Does anybody know why I get this error? http://paste.lisp.org/display/128093, I get this error on Arch Linux but not on Windows.
15:45 iisjmii: sorry I meant this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/128094
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15:48 asumu: iisjmii: I think it's hard to tell what's going on without more context.
15:49 asumu: Do you have a module that you can show us? Or is this a snippet from the REPL?
15:51 iisjmii: asumu: one moment
15:54 iisjmii: I annotated the paste with all information I think is relevant: http://paste.lisp.org/display/128094#1
15:54 iisjmii: Its just this snippet, I was just testing ffi
15:56 iisjmii: if i make init return an int it does work. It has the problem with _float too.
15:58 asumu: iisjmii: are you using the sandbox?
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16:00 iisjmii: To be honoust, I don't now, I just started using racket. How can I see if I am using the sandbox. I'm using racket via geiser in emacs.
16:01 asumu: iisjmii: Oh, the sandbox is a library to keep user programs from doing bad things. Maybe geiser uses it, and is causing your issues.
16:02 iisjmii: I'll try to run the programme without straight from racket.
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16:04 iisjmii: asumu: Yes it works without geiser. Thank you.
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16:04 asumu: iisjmii: No problem. That's odd though, given that I looked at geiser's source code and it doesn't use sandbox. Maybe it does indirectly somehow though.
16:06 iisjmii: Do you know why I cannot use _void or _float in sandbox though?
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16:12 asumu: iisjmii: Sorry, not sure. eli might know.
16:13 iisjmii: Okay, thx
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16:26 jonrafkind: jeapostrophe, wheres the 'd'
16:29 jonrafkind: thanks david.. :p
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17:25 track0x1: hey does anyone here know how i can check if lets say '(1 x 3) contains a letter?
17:27 Kaylin: sounds like a job for http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/regexp.html, note I am awful at them, so I'm not sure I can help beyond that.
17:27 bremner: a regex seems like overkill to me.
17:27 jamessan thinks of xkcd
17:28 track0x1: Kaylin: awesome thanks
17:28 Kaylin: it seems like total overkill to me too
17:28 bremner: track0x1: why not just use something like ormap ?
17:28 Kaylin: what's that :O
17:28 track0x1: bremner: to be honest i'm not sure what im doing... haha
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17:28 bremner: is it homework? this is probably some intended solution, if so.
17:29 track0x1: bremner: its a lab i am doing... i have to do alot of error checking
17:29 track0x1: bremner: i have a function test-max-of-all and for example (max-of-all '((1 2 3) (100) (100 200))) should give me 200
17:29 track0x1: bremner: likewise, (max-of-all '()) should give me max-of-all-error
17:30 track0x1: bremner: but if i get something like (max-of-all '((1 2 3) (1 x 3))) it's also a max-of-all-error
17:30 bremner: well, if you write your own max, you can generate that error when you find a non-number
17:31 track0x1: bremner: so i wrote a function num that checks if every element in a list is a number
17:31 track0x1: bremner: and will return true.. so i have that as a condition in my max-of-all function
17:32 track0x1: bremner: but if i get something like (num '((1))) it'll return false because its a list in a list
17:33 Kaylin: so if it's a list, throw it back into the function again yes?
17:33 track0x1: Kaylin: sounds genius. let me try that!
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17:34 Kaylin1: whee wifi
17:34 jonrafkind: wifi is the #1 cause of global warming
17:34 Kaylin1: 1. really?  2. wasn't my idea, my school set this up, hence it sucking.
17:35 jonrafkind: yes, i am 1 billion percent sure and i have never lied or told any jokes in my life
17:35 Kaylin1: hmm, see
17:35 Kaylin1: that seems a little too sure to me.
17:35 Kaylin1: I think you should be more skeptical.
17:35 track0x1: Kaylin: how do i check if list? hmmmm
17:36 track0x1: oh duh! list?
17:36 Kaylin1: :)
17:37 track0x1: Kaylin: sooo if i want to see if it is a list of lists?
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17:37 track0x1: (list? (car abx))
17:38 track0x1: grr
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17:40 Kaylin: sure :O
17:43 track0x1: so i cant get it to return true when i run (num '((1)))
17:44 bremner: maybe you are testing in the wrong place
17:45 track0x1: bremner: i am not sure... i think this is right for the most part except that i can't get true when i call (num '((1)))
17:45 track0x1: bremner: i will get true if i do (num '(1))
17:46 Kaylin: so then call the function itself on the car of the list, if it's a list
17:47 Kaylin: and you should get true then too
17:49 track0x1: Kaylin: but thatis giving me atoms
17:49 track0x1: Kaylin: and i wont be able to check the entire list
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17:50 Kaylin: (and (myfunction (car x)) (myfunction (cdr x))) ok I know that's crappy recursion but idk maybe
17:52 track0x1: Kaylin: hmmmm
17:52 jonrafkind: how do I put a linebreak between paragraphs in scribble? I tried @linebreak{} but then latex spits out a bunch of errors when I do scribble --pdf
17:54 track0x1: Kaylin: gah i cant get this im gonna give up, lol
17:54 track0x1: thanks for the help all
17:54 Kaylin: :(
17:55 track0x1: Kaylin: ive been working on this lab for 3 hours now, lol
17:55 Kaylin: eek
17:55 Kaylin: come back to it later imo, pounding your head against a wall just creates bad code, at least in my experience
17:56 track0x1: ok, i'll try- thanks again
17:56 track0x1: ciao
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18:19 samth: dear lazy-#racket: what is the best way to stop xexprs from escaping things in my attribute values?
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18:27 samth: jeapostrophe:  what is the best way to stop xexprs from escaping things in my attribute values?
18:37 jeapostrophe: samth: the only way to not escape things is with cdata
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18:42 samth: jeapostrophe: really?
18:43 samth: that's pretty painful when i have url's with & in them in my html
18:43 jeapostrophe: samth: how else would you? xexpr only produce valid XML
18:43 samth: & is a valid char in attributes
18:43 samth: i'm pretty sure of that
18:44 samth: anyway, i'd just like a parameter to control escaping
18:45 samth: jeapostrophe: anyway, i've got something that works atm
18:45 samth: so not urgent
18:45 samth: but i am having to call response/full with a bunch of byte strings
18:45 (nick) samth -> samth_away
18:46 jeapostrophe: samth_away: http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816/#NT-AttValue
18:46 jeapostrophe: samth_away: & and < are not allowed
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18:47 samth_away: ok, that may be the case for xml
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18:48 samth_away: however: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/syntax.html#attributes-0
18:48 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/7mrcq9r
18:48 samth_away: allows &
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18:48 jeapostrophe: some could make hexpr->string (etc)
18:48 jeapostrophe: but xexpr->string produces XML
18:48 samth_away: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/syntax.html#syntax-ambiguous-ampersand
18:48 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/79e2dnu
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18:48 samth_away: jeapostrophe: HTML >>>>>>>>> XML
18:49 samth_away: this is the *web* server
18:49 jeapostrophe: The *web* server does not mandate use of the *xml* module
18:49 samth_away: jeapostrophe: but your tutorial strongly suggests it
18:49 samth_away: and the xml module is a nice way to do this
18:50 jeapostrophe: i think we could and should make an html module like the xml one (maybe even reuse it with parameters as you suggest)
18:50 jeapostrophe: but i dislike something saying it is a representation of xml when it isn't
18:51 samth_away: maybe
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18:51 samth_away: but i think having a nice xml module should be a low priority for racket, and a nice html module a high one
18:51 samth_away: and with that, i really am away
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18:52 jeapostrophe: maybe, but we already have the nice xml module, so that we have it is not a statement of priority, but of fact
18:52 jeapostrophe: see ya later :)
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20:01 mimcpher: Has PLT folks considered applying to Summer of Code again this year?  I see from some mailing list posts there have been past applications that weren't accepted
20:02 chandler: mimcpher: yes; asumu is putting together a list of topics for this year: https://github.com/plt/racket/wiki/SoC-Ideas-2012
20:02 Kaylin: (mailing)
20:02 Kaylin: ^ a mailing list
20:03 mimcpher: chandler: cool stuff.
20:13 PfhorSlayer: wwu.edu, huh? Western?
20:13 Kaylin: yea
20:13 PfhorSlayer: I grew up in Bellingham. Small world!
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20:24 Kaylin1: welcome to Western, best network connection ever
20:26 asumu: Kaylin1: Oh, I know a guy who did CS at WWU. Do you know Kyle Levein?
20:26 asumu: *Levien
20:27 Kaylin1: idk :( I don't think so but then again, I don't think I'm qualified to express how terrible I am with names
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20:28 asumu: Well, it wouldn't be too surprising. He graduated in the last year or so.
20:28 asumu: (wouldn't be too surprising if you didn't know him, that is)
20:30 Kaylin1: idk see I am a bad student
20:30 Kaylin1: 2007 - 2010, 2011-???? however long I last
20:30 Kaylin1: :(
20:37 Kaylin1: I'm starting to think that I'm just not capable of being a student, /emo
20:37 (nick) Kaylin1 -> Kaylin
20:41 chandler: You should try anyway. Otherwise, you'll never get the certificate of being able to put up with meaningless BS that so many employers seem to want their employees to have.
20:42 Kaylin: yea I am
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20:45 PfhorSlayer: Or drop out and go work in the game industry ;)
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20:55 Kaylin: I hear the game industry is evil
20:56 Kaylin: I wish I could do cool stuff, websites seem super cool, and government things, and such, idk I know that's not specific at all but yea
20:56 asumu: I think that parts that let you use Racket probably aren't. :)
20:56 Kaylin: do parts let you use racket?
20:56 Kaylin: racket is so cool it's my favorite
20:56 Kaylin: even though I'm not doing great in my class for that
20:57 Kaylin: because my professor doesn't understand how to write clear instructions
20:57 bremner: professors suck.
20:57 Kaylin: I tried to explain how
20:58 Kaylin: '((2 3)(4 5)(3 6)) '(3 5 6)   '((2 3)(4 5)(3 6)(3 5 6)) are both a list of pairs and a list representing the codomain but he gave me a D on that section for interpreting it the second way not the first.
20:59 Kaylin: I like that professor too but sometimes it's just, grr
21:01 Kaylin: and my other professor is giving me awful grades all quarter for, not making my programs totally general
21:01 Kaylin: it's like they give me a very special case, and I write a program optimized for that special case, and they are like if it were this more general case this algorithm would be awful.  It's like yes, but that isn't the assignment this is. and I can't stop myself /rant
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21:10 Kaylin: sorry been a bad week =/ totally not related to #racket
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