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01:07 eli: samth_away: I don't know who's in charge of ccs/racket/pubs/, I've never touched it.
01:08 eli: (tauntaun: And if you see other typos, then obviously I'll fix them too...)
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09:52 samth: yoklov: see `define-runtime-path'
09:52 samth: eli: matthias is in charge of that page
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11:19 RPR: Need assistance exporting a typed/racket struct: What is the correct syntax?  https://gist.github.com/1497787
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11:24 samth: RPR: unfortunately, there's something wrong with `struct-out' and `struct:'
11:24 samth: so either manually provide the identifiers, or use `define-struct:'
11:25 RPR: Thx.
11:29 RPR: Should I open a bug report?
11:37 RPR: http://bugs.racket-lang.org/query/?cmd=view&pr=12453
11:38 samth: RPR: there's already a bug report for that, i believe
11:38 RPR: oops
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11:48 yoklov: you can't call struct-copy on a struct with an #:auto field?
11:52 yoklov: is it even possible to update them non-destructively then?
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12:09 dingfeng: hi, could i ask for a link to an example on how to use typed regions, how to require typed/racket without making all of the code typed?
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12:30 samth: dingfeng: there are examples here: http://pre.racket-lang.org/docs/html/ts-reference/Typed_Regions.html?q=with-ty#%28form._%28%28lib._typed-racket/typed-racket..rkt%29._with-type%29%29
12:30 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/7cdrhk8
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12:41 yoklov: oh wow, you can play sound from the gui?
12:43 samth: yoklov: yup
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12:44 yoklov: that is awesome.
12:45 samth: have you see the rsound library on planet?
12:46 yoklov: yeah
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12:47 yoklov: a while ago, it was a bit buggy iirc
12:47 samth: yoklov: i think it's getting better
12:48 samth: but i've never used it
12:48 yoklov: it worked great on mac and linux but would crash windows when i used it
12:49 yoklov: still, right now is just playing a small sound clip, so i'm completely satisfied by what racket/gui offers
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14:14 dyoo: is there a function like help, but which gives me a plain text string rather than point me to the browser?
14:30 dyoo: if not, I'm cooking it up now... :P
14:30 jonrafkind: id like such a thing too
14:31 dyoo: https://github.com/dyoo/extract-docstring
14:31 jonrafkind: it would be nice if it could do a levenshtien search for functions too
14:31 dyoo: still working on it, but it's starting to do something
14:31 jonrafkind: like the javascript stuff on the docs
14:31 jonrafkind: i mean i know the javascript doesnt do levenshtien
14:31 dyoo: See: test-extract-docstring.rkt
14:32 dyoo: I'll need to post on the list later; the way I'm getting the textual content is, frankly, crazy
14:32 dyoo: and I want to make sure that I haven't missed something completely obvious
14:32 jonrafkind: so you're reading the html generated files and pulling the info out of there?
14:32 dyoo: yes
14:32 jonrafkind: lulz
14:32 jonrafkind: you should take a screenshot of chrome and use OCR to convert it to text!
14:33 dyoo: oh, it gets better.  I'm using a functional zipper to help me do the scraping.  :)
14:33 jonrafkind: yea i see that tree-cursor thing
14:34 jonrafkind: there is most likely a way to read the scribble file directly or something
14:35 dyoo: I dearly hope so.  but I spent an hour scouring the scribble docs, and was getting stuck
14:35 jonrafkind: yea.. thats why I haven't done it either :p
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14:40 samth: dyoo: there's nothing left after running scribble that you could use -- there's just the html
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14:55 dyoo: samth: thought so.  Ok.
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18:40 RPR: Is there a means to require/typed something which is already exported with a provide/contract from an untyped module?
18:45 samth: RPR: if you mean to automatically use the contract, then no
18:45 samth: but plain `require/typed' should work fine
18:46 RPR: ahh, that would be a handy feature.  the scribble module export itemlist but not itemlist?  Though itemlist has a contract.
18:46 samth: and the contract references itemlist?
18:46 RPR: normally I'd do a (opaque Itemlist itemization?)
18:46 RPR: yes
18:47 RPR: but does not export it
18:47 RPR: itemlist?
18:47 samth: itemization? is provided by `scribble/core'
18:47 samth: rudybot: doc itemization?
18:47 rudybot: samth: your sandbox is ready
18:47 rudybot: samth: no docs for a current binding, but provided by: scribble/core
18:47 RPR: thx
18:48 samth: you can just click on the identifier in the contract to get taken to the documentation, where if you scroll up you see that it's in scribble/core
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19:53 ozzloy: https://github.com/ozzloy/ai-class-2011 hey, can i get people to check out my code?
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19:53 ozzloy: i used the ai class as a project to start learning racket
19:53 ozzloy: so this represents my first 10 weeks of racket learning
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20:03 RPR: ozzloy: Seems pretty clean and well organized.
20:03 ozzloy: really?  hah!  i was writing whatever came to mind planning on organizing it after the class was done
20:03 ozzloy: well thanks!
20:03 ozzloy: i guess i should do that more often
20:04 ozzloy: usually i spend a LOT of time getting my house of cards just right
20:05 RPR: Your txt files (notes) aren't that far from being made scribble files from which you can generate a mini-html site and/or a pdf.
20:07 RacketCommitBot: [racket] plt pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/jrkdfA
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20:19 ozzloy: RPR, yeah, i didn't really have enough time to read about scribble too
20:19 ozzloy: but i have heard enough about it to have it be my next thing that i do
20:19 ozzloy: i'm going to translate my latex resume into it
20:19 ozzloy: i dislike latex
20:21 ozzloy: RPR, thanks for looking it over!
20:23 ozzloy: https://github.com/ozzloy/ai-class-2011/blob/master/final.rkt lines 30 through 39 kinda bother me
20:23 ozzloy: is there a better way to do any of that?
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20:50 RPR: I'm far from expert, but its succint enough.  I'd probably used a straight let over let-values.
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20:55 RPR: samth_away: Is there away to require/typed a procedure with keyword args?
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20:56 RPR: ozzloy: Glanced at it again.  not sure if all the list comprehension stuff would be the way to go over say a recursive approach.  Try googling for scheme tower hanoi and see what you get for alt. approaches.
20:57 ozzloy: RPR, oh good idea
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