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00:31 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Added "Porting" section to the PLoT docs - Neil Toronto
00:35 mithos28: Is there an easy way to write a macro that correctly expands a set of forms as an internal definition context but then reorders some of the forms to change the order of evaluation at runtime?
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01:21 mithos28: is there a reason that there is no splicing-parameterize? (other than lack of some one interested in it)
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03:23 Blkt: good morning everyone
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03:50 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] New Racket version 5.1.3.12. - Eli Barzilay
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09:48 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] update docs related to embedding and changes due to futures/places - Matthew Flatt
09:48 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] scribble: fix Latex renderer treatment of table cell/column styles - Matthew Flatt
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10:23 stamourv: mithos28: What would `splicing-parameterize' do?
10:28 tim-brown: how do i remove the turtles from turtle-graphics, without remivung the image>
10:28 tim-brown: ?
10:30 stamourv: tim-brown: Does saving to bitmap work?
10:31 stamourv: (Note: I haven't used turtle-graphics, I'm just looking at the docs and guessing.)
10:33 tim-brown: it does... i was hoping to remove them from the canvas
10:34 tim-brown: but i've found tprompt which does what i want
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10:46 samth: eli: places are (a) easy to kill and (b) easy to reset, that's why they'd be nice even in a context that doesn't need parallelism
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11:39 asumu: I am happy that DrRacket's auto-recover works now. Just came in handy.
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11:50 tim-brown: stamourv: yes it did thanks... sorry for delay answering
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12:52 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] QNX porting - Kevin Tew
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13:01 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] adjust the scheme-lexer test suite so that it complains to stderr to fit - Robby Findler
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13:39 eli: samth: I wasn't talking about parallelism at all.  Using places just to make it easy to reload code is kind of like detonating a small atomic device to solve the problem of mosquitoes in your backyard.
13:40 eli: Specific to something like rudybot, you'd need to start thinking about how to synchronize things when you restart a place while it was working on something, which in general leads you to write communication protocols with the place, which is very similar to running a server process just for that.  Not using places means that you can integrate code much better.
13:40 eli: In any case, all of this is irrelevant to offby1 since he already has the reloading code working.  (The problem is that there's a large file that is not loaded through it, because rudybot isn't really made in a modular way.)
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15:07 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Adapt front page example for the new plot. - Eli Barzilay
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17:08 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Fix typo in the documentation. - Rodolfo Carvalho
17:19 offby1: eli: actually the reloading code complained the last time it ran, and I never figured out why.  I can start a new process with the code just fine.
17:40 eli: offby1: In that case send me the error and I'll look into it.
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19:10 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Use unsafe-vector* instead of unsafe-vector in a few benchmarks. - Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
19:10 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Revert "Fixing racket/match by removing errorneous optimization with test that shows it is broken" - Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
19:10 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Add note on `match' semantics. - Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
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21:03 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Closes PR 12262. - Neil Toronto
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22:52 jamessan: eli: when we talked about tests the other day, did you say that they should be able to run with only collects/tests present or is collects/racket also expected to be present?
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