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01:26 asumu: goto 500
01:26 asumu: goto 550
01:26 jonrafkind: whats at 550?
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01:28 asumu: Whoops, sorry.
01:28 asumu: Those were supposed to be between me and my IRC client
01:29 jonrafkind: your irc client is written in basic??
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01:29 asumu: I hope not.
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02:00 gf3: Hi guys
02:00 gf3: I'm having an issue installing racket on Gentoo
02:00 jonrafkind: so whats the issue
02:00 gf3: I keep running into this error during "make install"
02:01 gf3: …
02:01 gf3: raco setup:  in typed-scheme/base-env
02:01 gf3: make[1]: *** [install-3m] Killed
02:01 gf3: make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gianni/tmp/racket-5.1.2/src'
02:01 gf3: make: *** [install] Error 2
02:01 jonrafkind: do you have a ulimit set for memory?
02:01 gf3: jonrafkind: it is unlimited
02:02 jonrafkind: does dmesg say the OOM killer killed raco?
02:02 neilv: ulimit -a
02:06 gf3: jonrafkind, neilv: ahh, dmesg says out of memory
02:06 gf3: http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/show/88617271240568832.json
02:06 gf3: oops
02:06 gf3: Out of Memory: Kill process 3143 (make) score 7064 and children.
02:06 gf3: Out of memory: Killed process 3258 (raco setup).
02:06 jonrafkind: how much memory do you have on the box?
02:07 gf3: ~300MB
02:07 jonrafkind: well.. you'll have to enable some swap space
02:08 jonrafkind: it takes like 500-600mb to compile all the .rkt files, and sometimes 700-800 to build the documentation, you don't have to build the documentation though
02:08 neilv: that's a small amount of ram for a workstation nowadays. i'm not 100% sure that racket can build in that amount of virtual memory.  and if you have to hit swap for a racket build, that will be painful
02:08 gf3: crap
02:09 gf3: it's on a small VPS
02:09 gf3: low on disk space too
02:09 jonrafkind: another option is just to compile the C code and then you can get someone elses zo files for that version
02:09 neilv: can you build on a workstation and then just install on the vps?
02:09 jonrafkind: do you have to run gentoo? there is an ubuntu build
02:10 gf3: jonrafkind: unfortunately that's the one part I have no control over
02:10 gf3: I don't even normally run gentoo
02:11 jonrafkind: so can you compile everything locally and just copy the entire directory over?
02:12 eli: A VPS running gentoo sounds ... painful.
02:14 eli: neilv: *sigh*, it's a permission problem.
02:14 eli: That's why it didn't update since 1927.
02:14 neilv: gf3: i think your best bet, given those requirements, is to duplicate the same gentoo versions of everything on a workstation with more ram, build there, and copy the completely built tree to the vps
02:15 gf3: neilv: balls, thanks for the help, I appreciate it
02:15 jonrafkind: just copying the collects tree should be enough
02:15 jonrafkind: since he can compile the C stuff
02:16 neilv: jonrafkind: except for the native code bits in the collects tree
02:16 jonrafkind: like what, plot?
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02:18 neilv: jonrafkind: you're right. looks like the C code is effectively gone from the collects in 5.1.2
02:22 gf3: where are the collects that I'd want to copy over?
02:22 neilv: gf3: on your vps, if that oom-killed build already installed all the c-compiled code, it should be easy to copy the entire collects tree from another system like jonrafkind said, and try it
02:23 neilv: if it doesn't work, you have to look at the makefiles to see what didn't happen, or pick eli's brain
02:23 neilv: or do "make -n install"
02:24 gf3 downloads a gentoo image
02:24 gf3: thanks
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02:41 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] try to use the given security guard when deleting files, too - Robby Findler
02:41 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] clear the online expansion error message as soon as the buffer is modified - Robby Findler
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05:34 rly: Why does 'make' not make everything? If you run make install, it compiles tons of other stuff.
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05:55 neilv: o rly
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05:59 rly: What are the properties of the completion mechanism? It seems that it doesn't work in general.
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11:42 stamourv: rly: What do you mean?
11:43 stamourv: tonyg: Could you tell me what your TR patch is supposed to do?
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13:08 beginna: How do I go from having a folder called 'Racket v5.1.2' in Downloads folder to having everything in /usr/local/bin, etc. ?
13:09 dnolen: it's neat that Racket let's you pattern match hash-tables
13:12 jonrafkind: beginna, osx or linux?
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13:13 beginna: osx here
13:13 tonyg: stamourv: the TR patch makes the type of the domain of module->namespace correct. With the type as given before the patch, it rejects ordinary module names such as racket/base or typed/racket/base
13:14 tonyg: stamourv: it's an odd-man-out; all the other functions taking Module-Paths as arguments use Module-Path rather than the definition module->namespace has attached to it
13:15 stamourv: tonyg: I see.
13:15 stamourv: Are there any tests for this?
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14:09 sirdude: anyone compiled on SunOS5.10(x86)?
14:10 sirdude: I'm getting the following errors: http://www.cs.umn.edu/~mein/racket.txt
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14:26 stamourv: tonyg: Pushed. And yes, there was a test.
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14:27 stamourv: sirdude: That's odd.
14:27 stamourv: And I'm not aware of anyone running Racket on SunOS.
14:27 sirdude: it works fine on SunOS(sparc)
14:28 sirdude: my scheme is a bit rusty any ideas? :)
14:29 stamourv: That doesn't look like a Scheme problem, looks more like a build problem.
14:29 stamourv: Could you send that to the mailing list? You're more likely to reach the people that can help you with it.
14:30 sirdude: acutally I lied... on SunOS(sparc) I compiled with out libffi  I'll try that first.
14:33 stamourv: There are various switches you can turn on and off for the ffi.
14:33 stamourv: You can choose to use a libffi you have already installed, or you can use the one bundled in the Racket source, or you can disable the ffi altogether.
14:34 sirdude: I'm using --disable-libffi   seems to be working so far... (fingers crossed)
14:39 sirdude: nope same problem...
14:39 sirdude: dev list better than users?
14:40 stamourv: For this, I'd say so.
14:40 stamourv: Have your tried --disable-foreign?
14:40 stamourv: That disables the ffi completely.
14:41 sirdude: I did with 5.1.1  and I was getting other errors I think....  Haven't tried that with 5.1.2 though but will.
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14:52 sirdude: ok with --disable-foreign I'm getting: http://www.cs.umn.edu/~mein/racket2.txt  guess I need to look through the scheme to see why its trying to use get-ffi-obj?
14:53 stamourv: It seems to originate from plot.
14:53 stamourv: Could you try with --disable-plot?
14:53 sirdude: ah collects/racket/gui/dynamic.rkt has : (require ffi/unsafe)
14:53 sirdude: (at the top of it)
14:54 stamourv: Anyway, I gotta run for now, I'll be back in about an hour.
14:55 sirdude: pretty sure I tried that as well :)  Will keep plugging away at it though.  Thanks for the help.
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16:12 stamourv: sirdude: I'm back. Any luck?
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16:26 sirdude: stamourv: nope...  I posted to the mailing list though :)  I tried with disabling plot as well and got the same second message on make install... (ffi-lib?: foreign interface not supported for this platform
16:28 stamourv: I didn't see your post go by.
16:36 stamourv: 5.1.2's release made it to the front page of both Hacker News _and_ programming Reddit!
16:39 ohwow_: gonna upvote ;)
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