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03:35 racket: [racket/master] added tests of require - John Clements
03:35 racket: [racket/master] removed a space - John Clements
03:35 racket: [racket/master] added test of let* unwinding, moved shared.rkt unit tests out here - John Clements
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11:07 tauntaun: Struggling with raco/scribble.  I've added for-label to requires but the resulting HTML has broken links.  Any ideas?
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11:07 tauntaun: s/requires/'requires'/
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11:11 samth: tauntaun: probably a more detailed explanation is needed
11:16 mithos28: is there a way to bind a pattern variable to what a head pattern matches in syntax/parse? ~and is not working for me.
11:18 tauntaun: samth: Well, I've made a symbolic link to my code directory in my personal .racket/collects dir.
11:18 tauntaun: My code directory has a simple info.rkt file.
11:18 tauntaun: The scrbl document sits alongside the code.
11:19 tauntaun: When I run raco setup -l <my-collection>, a doc/<my-collection> dir is created, containing all the intermediates and the final index.html.
11:19 tauntaun: The scrbl document contains just one (require (for-label.
11:19 mithos28: tauntaun: are the broken links to the main collections?
11:19 tauntaun: If that (require (for-label... lists a source file, then.
11:19 tauntaun: No.
11:20 tauntaun: They are to my own source files.
11:20 mithos28: ok cannot help then
11:21 tauntaun: mithos28: was that for me or for samth?
11:21 tauntaun: oh, oops.
11:21 tauntaun: I didn't realize you were the one who responded.
11:21 mithos28: tauntaun: you
11:22 tauntaun: Can you say more about why linking to my own functions can't work?
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11:22 mithos28: No. It was I knew someone who had trouble with linking to the main code and could post his solution.
11:23 mithos28: I don't know enough scribble to help you.
11:24 tauntaun: OK, thanks for trying.  I hope someone else will eventually suggest something. :)
11:27 samth: tauntaun: i think you need to either email or lisppaste a more comprehensive description
11:27 samth: scribble gets complicated
11:27 tauntaun: samth: Indeed.
11:28 tauntaun: samth: Let me try this before going to email/lisppaste.
11:28 tauntaun: samth: If you look at the 'make' collection,
11:28 tauntaun: you find a make.scrbl.
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11:28 samth: yeah
11:28 tauntaun: It looks just like my .scrbl, and the info.rkt looks similar to mine.
11:29 tauntaun: The only difference is that the 'make' directory is in racket/collects.
11:29 tauntaun: Whereas mine is in .racket/collects, and their's a symlink to my code, which lives somewhere else.
11:29 samth: what `for-label' requires are there in your .scrbl file
11:29 tauntaun: AFAICT, those are the only differences.
11:29 tauntaun: Just one source file.
11:29 tauntaun: Which lives right alongside the .scrbl file.
11:29 samth: can you paste exactly what they are?
11:29 tauntaun: Sure, just sec.
11:30 tauntaun: @(require (for-label racket rpg/space))
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11:30 samth: and you're documenting the identifiers provided from `rpg/space'?
11:30 tauntaun: Yes.,
11:30 samth: and they are the broken links as well?
11:31 tauntaun: They are the only links (other than the standard racket links), and yes they are broken.
11:31 tauntaun: Actually, 'broken' might not be the right word.
11:31 samth: they are underlined in red?
11:32 tauntaun: Exactly.
11:32 samth: ok, so then scribble isn't finding the documentation for them
11:32 samth: what if you just run a plain 'raco setup'?
11:32 tauntaun: I'll try that now.
11:33 tauntaun: (...btw, some of Jay McCarthy's planet packages generated a ton of warnings...)
11:33 samth: what kind of warnings?
11:34 samth: probably, they aren't using `this-package-in'
11:34 tauntaun: duplicate tag warnings.
11:34 tauntaun: Also, I got a raco setup error having to do with test.rkt.  Is this file required, and what is its purpose?
11:35 samth: um, what file is that?
11:35 tauntaun: Ah, forget that.
11:35 tauntaun: It's nothing.
11:35 tauntaun: Back to our main point...
11:35 tauntaun: The html is no different.
11:35 tauntaun: Red underlining for the functions in rpg/space.
11:35 samth: ok
11:35 tauntaun: Btw, should rpg/space have any special scribble annotations?
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11:36 samth: no, you shouldn't have to change the code at all
11:36 tauntaun: Hmm.
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11:36 samth: is the code available somewhere that i could look at?
11:37 tauntaun: I'm afraid I don't have a github acct.
11:37 tauntaun: I've never used lisppaste before.
11:37 tauntaun: Do I need an account?
11:37 samth: no, you don't
11:38 tauntaun reads lisppaste instructions...
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11:47 tauntaun: samth: after clicking 'submit paste' I got a blank page.  How do we access my paste?
11:48 tauntaun: FWIW, I sent it to the #racket channel.
11:50 tauntaun: Ah, apparently we're just supposed to wait.
11:55 samth: no, it doesn't autopaste
11:55 samth: you have to get the link manually
11:56 tauntaun: samth: I believe this is it: http://paste.lisp.org/display/123025
12:01 tauntaun: samth: I think I found the problem.
12:02 tauntaun: I have @defmodule["space.rkt"]{...
12:02 tauntaun: Changing it to @defmodule[rpg/space]{...   seems to solve the problem.
12:06 samth: yes, the defmodule needs to agree with the require for-label, i think
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12:13 tauntaun: OK, thanks.
12:18 samth: eli: ping
12:19 eli: samth: ?
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12:30 samth: eli: is there a way to build the racketcon web pages w/o building all of the iplt stuff?
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12:43 EgnartsMs: sorry for a second question in succession.. but my question is much more simpler :) what's the easiest way to represent a simple numerical sequence in Racket (like Fibonacci sequence, for example) ?
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12:44 eli: samth: No.  The previous system had a kind of a hackish attempt to do that, it gets things very broken.
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12:45 eli: But running it shouldn't take *that* long.
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12:46 samth: eli: ok, it's just when i'm making minor css edits that's it's annoying
12:47 eli: samth: If you really want quick turnaround for such edits, do it directly on the resulting page, and then copy back to the source.
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13:04 racket: [racket/master] renamed stepper-define-struct-hint to stepper-black-box-expr - John Clements
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13:05 tauntaun: Will Racketcon be videorecorded, perchance?
13:12 samth: tauntaun: if we can get someone with the know-how and equipment to do it
13:12 samth: i don't think any of the organizers is that someone, unfortunately
13:13 tauntaun: samth: The reason I ask is that I've seen videos of Guy Steele talking at NEU, hosted by Matthias Felleisen.  I thought perhaps something simple like that...(?)
13:13 jonrafkind: matthias taped some of his classes as well
13:14 tauntaun feels a perverse glee as he seems to have opened a can of worms.
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13:24 samth: tauntaun: those talks are hosted the the NU student ACM chapter
13:24 samth: who has av knowledge/equipment/etc
13:24 samth: i plan to talk to them
13:24 samth: but they're not here as much over the summer
13:25 samth: eli: can you push the web page changes
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13:41 mithos28: samth: I just pushed a commit to the pull request that changes the behavior of require/typed depending on the language
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13:56 eli: samth: That's a mess.
14:02 samth: eli: !
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15:19 samth: eli: is there a best way to post announcements to c.l.s and c.l.l
15:22 eli: samth: google groups.
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15:26 bremner: not gmane?
15:27 eli: No, gmane doesn't do newsgroups.
15:28 bremner: oh right, I'm exactly wrong.
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15:45 racket: [racket/master] refactored to move test cases into a separate file(s) - John Clements
15:45 racket: [racket/master] added parameter to control STC's debug printout - John Clements
15:45 racket: [racket/master] cleanup, tentatively annotating all top-level-vars - John Clements
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15:48 eli: samth: Any objection to a "see also on google maps" link?
15:50 samth: eli: that would be great
15:50 (topic) samth: 
15:50 samth: damn
15:51 (topic) samth: RacketCon: July 23-24 http://con.racket-lang.org -- logs at http://racket-lang.org/irc-logs
15:51 eli: samth: It's conveniet to have a direct link to the view of the building.
15:52 samth: eli: i agree
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15:53 samth: eli, can you push your changes
15:53 samth: or just fix Amtrack to Amtrak
15:54 eli: Done.
15:55 samth: eli: something just went very wrong with the schedule formatting
15:56 eli: Yeah, and amuzing result of forgetting `in-value'.
15:56 eli: s/and/an/
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16:08 (topic) samth: Come to RacketCon: July 23-24 http://con.racket-lang.org -- logs at http://racket-lang.org/irc-logs
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17:14 tauntaun: Any particular reason why provide/contract doesn't offer the same nifty bells and whistles that provide does?  (E.g., lacking 'prefix-out', I have to use 'rename'.)
17:14 samth: tauntaun: smop, i think
17:15 tauntaun: samth: embarrassingly, I don't know that acronym.
17:16 tauntaun does an internet search...
17:16 tauntaun: Ah.
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17:33 samth: eli: what do i do to make an image be copied over in the web pages?
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17:36 racket: [racket/master] added missing argument to parameter set - John Clements
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18:13 tauntaun: Any idea why a syntax error is thrown for this:
18:13 tauntaun: (provide/doc
18:13 tauntaun: (proc-doc/names
18:13 tauntaun: world-create
18:13 tauntaun: (-> world?)
18:13 tauntaun: ()
18:13 tauntaun: @{Create a new world.}))
18:13 tauntaun: It's pretty much identical to what's in racket/collects/framework/gui-utils.rkt.
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18:15 jonrafkind: whats the error
18:16 tauntaun: proc-doc/names: bad syntax in: (proc-doc/names world-create (-> world?) () @ (Create a new world.))
18:16 jonrafkind: rofl
18:16 tauntaun: ?
18:16 jonrafkind: thats a hilariously bad error
18:17 tauntaun: You mean bad error reporting?
18:17 jonrafkind: yes
18:18 tauntaun: Have changes been made to scribble/srcdoc since framework/gui-utils.rkt was written?
18:18 jonrafkind: are you sure about the @ ?
18:18 tauntaun: yup.
18:19 jonrafkind: hm your syntax does look identical to gui-utils..
18:19 tauntaun: Compare to gui-utils:cancel-on-right?
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18:20 racket: [racket/master] Added support for configurable constructor names in require/typed. - Eric Dobson
18:20 racket: [racket/master] Cleaned up define-typed-struct-internal and require/typed. - Eric Dobson
18:20 racket: [racket/master] Added legacy support for require/typed and require-typed-struct. - Eric Dobson
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18:20 jonrafkind: yea
18:23 jonrafkind: your code works for me
18:23 jonrafkind: whats your lang line?
18:24 jonrafkind: oh yea you need #lang at-exp racket
18:24 jonrafkind: oh boy that is really insane..
18:24 tauntaun: Argh.
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18:30 tauntaun: Thanks, jonrafkind.
18:30 jonrafkind: no problem
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19:16 otzi: This is a common pattern in haskell for dealing with recursive datatypes: http://paste.debian.net/121463/ I have a somewhat similar situation in racket. I have lists such as (branch x (branch y (leaf 1) (leaf 2)) (leaf 3)) (there are actually severral different kinds of branches and leafs). I'm interested in finding an elegant solution for taking different actions depending on the first element of the list.
19:18 jonrafkind: use a predicate to detect the type of the object
19:18 jonrafkind: (cond [(branch? x) ...] [(leaf? x) ...])
19:19 jonrafkind: or you can use match in mostly a similar way to what you have now
19:19 jonrafkind: (match x [(branch z left right) ...] [(leaf z) ...])
19:20 jonrafkind: similar in that it allows destructuring while detecting the type of the object
19:20 otzi: hm, I didn't know about match
19:20 otzi: seems good
19:20 jonrafkind: racket doesn't directly support dispatch based on the types, although I suppose it could be implemented
19:24 eli: samth: I didn't understand the question.
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19:37 tauntaun: So it looks like an @include-extracted has to be at the top level, not nested in, say, a @defmodule, right?
19:38 samth: eli: i want to add an image to the con.racket-lang page
19:38 samth: if i just put an @img tag, the image file doesn't get copied to the output directort
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21:19 racket: [racket/master] remove syntax certificates; add syntax taints - Matthew Flatt
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21:20 jonrafkind: :p
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21:37 eli: samth: Put the image somewhere I can access, and tell me where you want it.
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21:48 racket: [racket/master] New Racket version 5.1.1.7. - Eli Barzilay
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21:53 tauntaun: Do contracts apply to re-exported identifiers, or does the re-exporting module have to restate the contract?
21:56 jonrafkind: i think it should apply because you are really exporting a different symbol that the one defined
21:56 jonrafkind: the contracted symbol is really a macro, iirc
21:59 tauntaun: jonrafkind: That's interesting.  I'll try it out tomorrow.  Meanwhile, any thoughts about the question I asked a couple of hours ago (a few lines up)?
22:00 jonrafkind: i have no idea or I would have replied with some guess
22:00 jonrafkind: i mean probably yes thats the case
22:00 jonrafkind: i think @include-sectino has to be at the top level
22:00 tauntaun: Ah, I thought it was missed because everyone was out to dinner or something...
22:00 jonrafkind: i neither eat nor sleep
22:00 jonrafkind: my cpu is a neural net. a thinking machine
22:01 tauntaun: wow...you must be ready to model for calvin klein then.
22:01 tauntaun: (they take waifs)
22:01 jonrafkind: uhh yea sure!
22:01 tauntaun: the non-nestability of @include-extracted is a pity...
22:03 tauntaun: It's awkward to close a @defmodule prematurely just to accommodate an @include-extracted.  But I've noticed that the feature isn't used much anyway....only in framework, basically.
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22:21 racket: [racket/master] fix problem pushing instantiation-time inspector - Matthew Flatt
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22:48 racket: [racket/master] fix another stx-vs-#f bug - Matthew Flatt
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