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09:16 bremner: eli: racket has been accepted to debian unstable. Thanks for your help.
09:16 bremner: just don't change the name again ;)
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10:32 rekahsoft: hi all..still having trouble using jaz/mysql:1:7 to connect to mysql dbs..
10:32 rekahsoft: i have tried on a few different systems now and still nothing :S
10:33 rekahsoft: i get "tcp-connect: connection to localhost, port 3306 failed (at step 6: Connection refused; errno=111)"
10:33 rekahsoft: i use "(connect "localhost" 3306 "user" "password" #:set-current? #t))"
10:53 rekahsoft: hmm...ryanc/db:1:0 doesn't work either...but for some odd reason "mysql -h localhost --port 3306 -u user -p" works from shell???
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14:56 wilbro: Hey folks, having a DrRacket.app crash issue whenever I hit 'Run'.
14:56 wilbro: DrRacket 5.1
14:56 wilbro: OSX 10.6.7
15:05 bremner: wilbro: if you don't get any answer, try the mailing list. It seems the mac using devs are not irc-using for the most part ;)
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15:06 bremner: I could be wrong, I'm just a bystander
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15:06 wilbro: @bremner, thanks... will do
15:10 samth: jonrafkind, there are lots of ways to do that in the ffi
15:11 jonrafkind: great
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15:17 bremner: jonrafkind: oh, you might be interested that racket 5.1 is in debian unstable, or will be on the next archive pulse.  I suppose it will get synched to ubuntu, but I don't really know how that process works.
15:18 samth: bremner, woot!
15:18 samth: well done
15:19 bremner: yeah. I hope things will be smoother for the next upstream release.
15:19 jonrafkind: ubuntu synchs from debian unstable?
15:19 bremner: yes
15:20 samth: given that ubuntu will start their new release cycle soon, they should get 5.1 at least for Ocelot
15:20 samth: or whatever 11.10 is called
15:22 jonrafkind: bremner, how often does racket get updated in debian unstable?
15:22 bremner: as often as it needs to be, all going well.
15:23 bremner: until we next freeze anyway
15:23 jonrafkind: oh ok so in theory ubuntu will be no more than 2 versions behind the development version of racket
15:23 eli: bremner: Thanks!  -- We still need to deal with the latex files, and still no reply from the srfi-19 guy.
15:24 eli goes back to festive cleaning activities
15:24 bremner: eli: hi!. By the way, I think you'll like my wording on the deflate stuff a bit better than what we discussed. 1 sec.
15:24 eli: ok
15:24 jonrafkind: rofl that must be fun eli
15:25 eli: In ways you cannot imagine.
15:26 bremner: eli: http://paste.debian.net/114396/
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15:26 eli: bremner: I'll look at that in a few minutes...
15:31 bremner: ok, just confirmed with the ubuntu guys, and racket should get added automagically to ubuntu (although not in time for natty)
15:32 jonrafkind: did you deal with the icon thing getting added to the launcher?
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15:33 bremner: umm. no, but I can if someone tells me what a launcher is ;)
15:33 jonrafkind: theres a menu thing in ubuntu that lists a bunch of programs with a corresponding icon
15:33 jonrafkind: it shows up when you make a .desktop file or something
15:35 bremner: hmm. ok, well, hopefully somebody will send me one when it doesn't show up in gnome; otherwise I'll try to cook one up.
15:35 bremner: I guess the PLT scheme package didn't have one either
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15:38 jonrafkind: i mean im supposed to do it, i just haven't yet
15:38 jonrafkind: maybe ill get around to it when i make a 5.2 ppa package
15:50 bremner: hmm. It seems we have a "debian menu" entry, but no desktop entry
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15:58 eli: bremner: The only difference I see is the "If GPL versus LGPL matters, contact PLT Scheme team." line -- but that's obvious if it's in our code...
15:59 bremner: well, before it said "GPL"
15:59 bremner: it's all about lazy evaluation
15:59 eli: Which part?
16:00 bremner: the line which now starts with "License: DFSG" used to say "License: GPL\n"
16:00 eli: Ah, I see that you said "a bit better than what we discussed" -- and somehow thought that you're referring to our text...
16:00 eli: Yes, it's definitely better.
16:01 eli: And re the desktop file and icon -- it's probably easiest to see what other packages do.
16:02 eli: At some point I talked about it with the Fedora guy, and he said that it's best if we *don't* do it -- but it looks like xdg is stable and implemented widely enough that maybe we should add it.
16:04 eli looks at jonrafkind
16:05 jonrafkind: whats xdg
16:05 eli: freedesktop.org
16:06 jonrafkind: I think ubuntu packages just put a .desktop file somewhere and the installer will do the right thing
16:06 eli: That's the bottom line.
16:06 jonrafkind: i thought you wanted to use xdg
16:06 eli: xdg dictates the format of the files, and their location.
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16:07 eli: Ideally, things are well defined enough that it'll only be a bunch of files to drop somewhere.
16:07 jonrafkind: yes, are you trying to say we can re-use the same files for all distributions?
16:08 eli: Yeah, hopefully.
16:08 jonrafkind: that would be good
16:08 eli: It'll need to be added to the machinery that copies files out on install -- both for `make install' and for our installers.
16:09 eli: Looking through google-chrome, I see:
16:10 eli: /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome.desktop -- the desktop file
16:10 jonrafkind: btw eli I got a wierd error from ffi
16:11 eli: /usr/share/gnome-control-center/default-apps/google-chrome.xml
16:11 jonrafkind: originally I had (type: _float pre: x => (+ 0.0 x)) and I got this error compile: unbound identifier in module in: type:
16:11 jonrafkind: when I cahnged it to pre: (x => (+ 0.0 x)) then it worked as expected
16:11 eli: and /opt/google/chrome/product_logo_*.png for the icons probably.
16:11 eli: Maybe it's not a good example.
16:12 eli: Did you do that inside a `define-fun-syntax'?
16:12 jonrafkind: no, direclty in a _fun
16:13 eli: Then do the above -- it's intended to be used to define new types.
16:13 jonrafkind: yes but thats orthogonal
16:13 eli: The `pre:' working is probably just an accident.
16:13 jonrafkind: the error had nothing to do with the mistake I made
16:13 jonrafkind: what?
16:13 jonrafkind: are you saying the final version I have doesn't work?
16:14 eli: Yes, you should use `define-fun-syntax'.
16:14 eli: s/doesn't/shouldn't/
16:14 jonrafkind: how is that any different? I thought `define-fun-syntax' just replaced custom types with something else
16:14 jonrafkind: in this case I just wrote that something else directly
16:14 jonrafkind: ok let me try it with define-fun-syntax and see if the error occurs
16:16 jonrafkind: yes its the same error
16:16 eli: I don't think that it's a good idea to use it directly, but I don't remember the details.
16:17 jonrafkind: fine, ill just submit it as a bug
16:17 eli: As for why it's not working -- start from some file where it works, and go on from there.
16:18 jonrafkind: its obvious why it doesn't work, because the parsing is broken
16:18 eli: If it's obvious to you, then just fix it.
16:21 eli: jonrafkind: http://tmp.barzilay.org/x
16:21 eli: Works fine.
16:21 jonrafkind: oh you misread my issue
16:21 jonrafkind: take off the ( from before the r in post:
16:21 jonrafkind: and the ) at the end
16:22 jonrafkind: post: r => (unless r (error "poof"))
16:28 eli: jonrafkind: The code is in `custom-type->keys' feel free to improve it.
16:28 jonrafkind: word
16:29 eli: Identifier.
16:29 mithos28: Is it possible through dynamic require to extract a syntax transformer?
16:31 eli: mithos28: Yes, but it would be difficult, since you'd need to write the dynamic require at the syntax level.
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16:35 mithos28: So there isn't an easy way to visit it (I think this is what I want), and examine the bindings. I don't actually care about instantiating the module.
16:36 eli: mithos28: you only want to know what bindings are provided?
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16:37 jonrafkind: module->exports returns two values, a list of variables and a list of syntaxes
16:37 mithos28: and the 'values' of provided syntax transformers
16:39 mithos28: those should be in phase +1 with respect to an instantiation of the module
16:40 mithos28: I am willing to use a namespace if need be
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17:03 mithos28: Is what I want the equivalent of  dynamic-require-for-template?
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17:39 samth: mithos28, no, you never ever want that
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19:20 jonrafkind: how do you typeset racket code in scribble? @racketblock[...] ?
19:20 jonrafkind: it seems to produce strange formatting
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20:28 stamourv: jonrafkind: what do you mean the formatting is strange?
20:29 jonrafkind: well for one thing it removed the _ in _float*
20:29 stamourv: mmm, odd
20:29 jonrafkind: i guess thats the only issue actually
20:29 jonrafkind: i thought the colors were wrong but I think they are ok
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21:28 samth: the _-removal is intentional
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