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14:29 tauntaun: Should a Scheme programmer be expected to understand the uses of eqv? as instinctively as one understands eq? and equal? ?
14:29 jonrafkind: i dont use it much
14:30 tauntaun: yes, but do you always remember the difference between it and the other two?
14:30 tauntaun: or do you find you need to crack open the reference to remind yourself?
14:30 jonrafkind: i know that eqv is like eq but works for numbers
14:30 jonrafkind: if it does more than that, then i have forgotten
14:31 tauntaun: (actually I use = for numbers)
14:31 jonrafkind: i dont look in the reference because i never use it
14:31 jonrafkind: yes me too
14:37 tewk: characters are eqv? I believe
14:41 tauntaun: tewk: yes, but I find myself comparing characters very rarely.  Usually it's symbols and strings.
14:43 tewk: http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/booleans.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._eqv~3f))
14:43 tewk: looks like its numbers and chars
14:44 tauntaun: tewk: yes, you'll find it laid out in Dybvig's book too.  But I just wanted to know how bad I should feel for not knowing instinctively how eqv? differs from the other two.
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21:59 imran_sr: hi, anyone in?
21:59 bremner: imran_sr: just on my way to sleep. Got an easy question?
22:01 imran_sr: bremner: oh, no need to keep you up. I've just started trying out racket (long time chicken user), and I was wondering if anyone knew whether rackets immutable lists provided the same benefits as clojures immutable data structures
22:02 imran_sr: in other words, does the racket vm share data structures (behind the scenes) when you pass a list from function to function to function
22:02 bremner: oh, somebody here might know that, but not me ;)
22:02 imran_sr: np ;)
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22:51 offby1: imran_sr: I assume it does.
22:51 offby1: it'd be silly to copy it needlessly
22:53 imran_sr: offby1: just wondering what improvements "behind the scenes" which rackets immutable default lists give. Its a lot more re-assuring to structure more of your program in a functional manner, and pass large (and larger) data structures around as parameters, if you know that the compiler (or VM) is only going to create the minimum, and share as much as possible
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23:34 offby1: sure