00:41 fds: He didn't say that...
00:44 offby1: em: I'm using a super-cheap EC2 instance for rudybot -- I think it's < $10 / month
00:52 Lajla: fds, yeah, but subconscously he thougt it.
01:00 offby1: em: seems to be more like $15/mo
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03:01 jonrafkind: offby1, how does that work since you pay perhour?
03:01 jonrafkind: or do you just leave it up all the time
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04:58 MK_FG: Is there any reasonable way to tell which file racket was started with? I mean, like __file__ in python, or even $0 will do, I guess
04:58 MK_FG: Just thinking of how to better implement few relative (to the main script) imports
05:04 MK_FG: Nvm, guess just strings as module-path's will suffice
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08:54 rapacity: hey eli, there are 2 broken links on the community page on racket's site, "release announcements" returns a 404 and, the irc-log returns a 403
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12:04 eli: rapacity: I know, different problems for each.
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12:13 rapacity: oh, :p sorry then
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13:32 rapacity: hey jonrafkind, there's this bug report you closed http://bugs.racket-lang.org/query/?cmd=view%20audit-trail&database=default&pr=11662 I tried the code on 5.1.0.1 but it still throws an exeception
13:32 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/6gy3qxs
13:32 jonrafkind: ok
13:36 jonrafkind: you're right now it errors for me
13:36 jonrafkind: i dont know what happened before
13:40 offby1: jonrafkind: rudybot's ec2 instance is indeed up all the time.
13:40 rapacity: ok cool :p then it's not just my machine throwing exceptions
13:41 offby1: When they first introduced ec2, I looked into it, but it was way too expensive -- I think it'd have been $70/month or something.  But recently they've introduced an ultra-cheap flavor, which is what I now use
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14:16 rapacity: rudybot: (printf "test~%a~%")
14:16 rudybot: rapacity: ; stdout: "test\na\n"
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14:54 rapacity: rudybot: (require typed/racket)
14:54 rudybot: rapacity: Done.
14:54 offby1 perks up
14:54 offby1: rudybot: you're still using a typewriter?
14:54 rudybot: *offby1: The term "tab stop" comes from typewriters. And you'll need to google "typewriter" if you never heard of one :D
14:55 rapacity: rudybot: (: test : Number -> String) (define (test n) (number->string n))
14:55 rudybot: rapacity: Done.
14:55 rapacity: rudybot: (test "FF")
14:55 rudybot: rapacity: error: eval:1:6: Type Checker: Expected Complex, but got String in: (quote "FF")
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14:56 rapacity: rudybot: (struct: posn ([y : Integer] [x : Integer]) #:transparent)
14:56 rudybot: rapacity: error: eval:1:9: dtsi*: expected struct name at: posn in: (dtsi* () posn ((y : Integer) (x : Integer)) #:maker posn)
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14:56 rapacity: rudybot: (test 1)
14:56 rudybot: rapacity: ; Value: "1"
14:57 rapacity: d:
15:05 offby1: some day I need to give typed scheme a real try-out
15:05 offby1: I get the feeling it's not quite ready for prime time yet
15:08 carleastlund: There are definitely still some rough edges on it, offby1, on the other hand it is still possible to get some serious programming done in it.  I have.
15:11 offby1: I should "port" my little anagrams program to it
15:28 offby1: carleastlund: how can I get a typed racket prompt from the "racket" program?
15:29 carleastlund: offby1: racket -I typed/racket
15:30 carleastlund: If you have the same lousy font I do, that option is "dash capital-aye", not "dash lowercase-ell".
15:30 offby1: tx
15:30 carleastlund: If you have some other font, it was "semicolon arr emm dash arr eff" ;)
15:31 carleastlund: err, "... slash"
15:31 offby1: in my font, it looks like "blah blah blah Ginger blah blah blah"
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15:54 offby1: carleastlund: would you be willing to look at a _tiny_ program and explain why it fails? http://ix.io/1rp
15:54 offby1: The failure is: typed-racket-whine:13:0: Type Checker: Error in macro expansion -- untyped variable: run/inner in: (define-test-suite hmm-tests (check-equal? (hmm (quote whatever)) 3))
15:57 carleastlund: offby1, not all of the macros exported by typed/rackunit are 100% Typed Racket-compatible.  That file just assigns types to the values and passes the macros through, and if they inject untyped variables there's not a whole lot to do about it without completely reimplementing RackUnit in Typed Racket.
15:58 offby1: figured it'd be something like that.
15:58 offby1: hence my suspicion about "not ready for prime time"
16:00 carleastlund: I dunno, I've used enough "prime time" software that had much bigger headaches than TR... but yes, I agree it's not as straightforward to use as regular ol' untyped Racket.
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16:20 offby1: can you explain this? http://ix.io/1rr
16:20 offby1: I'd have expected to see (Vector Postive-Fixnum) at the end
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16:21 joe_shmo: hey everyone
16:21 joe_shmo: I'm not exactly sure how to use the "macro stepper"
16:21 joe_shmo: like, when I click on it
16:21 joe_shmo: it doesn't actually step through any of my function applications?
16:22 offby1 never really understood it either
16:22 joe_shmo: lol..
16:22 joe_shmo: works fine on lower levels
16:22 joe_shmo: like intermediate student
16:22 joe_shmo: and whatnot
16:23 joe_shmo: problem is I can't step down to those >_>
16:24 offby1: perhaps it's only meant to work for those levels
16:24 rapacity: that's really inconsistent d:
16:25 joe_shmo: yeah...
16:25 joe_shmo: why would you even call it a "stepper" then...
16:25 joe_shmo: anyways, thanks guy
16:25 joe_shmo: guys*
16:26 rapacity: rudybot: (require typed/racket)
16:26 rudybot: rapacity: your sandbox is ready
16:26 rudybot: rapacity: Done.
16:27 joe_shmo: wah..
16:27 joe_shmo: what did you do?
16:27 rapacity: rudybot: (ann (vector 2) (Vector Positive-Fixnum))
16:27 rudybot: rapacity: ; Value: #(2)
16:27 rapacity: what did I do :p?
16:27 joe_shmo: what is typed/racket?
16:27 rapacity: a variant of typed racket that's statically typed
16:27 rapacity: err a variant of racket*
16:28 joe_shmo: can I use the stepper with it?
16:28 rapacity: yeah, it works on it
16:28 rapacity: oh
16:28 rapacity: what stepper are you talking about?
16:28 rapacity: the macro stepper?
16:29 rapacity: if it's the macro stepper than yeah it works with it
16:38 joe_shmo: yeah macro stepper
16:38 joe_shmo: let me try that out
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