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09:26 bamccaig: I'm trying to build Racket from the unix source on a headless server.
09:26 bamccaig: It fails because of X11/OpenGL...
09:26 bamccaig: I can't figure out how to disable that.
09:30 tewk: try --disable-gracket
09:30 bamccaig: Thank you. :-[ I had tried --disable_gracket. :(
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11:18 bamccaig: Should it take a long time to install racket? `make install' has been running for a very long time...
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11:19 samth: how long?
11:19 samth: what's the current output?
11:20 clklein: bamccaig: I wouldn't be surprised if it took more than an hour on a slower machine.
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11:23 bamccaig: It's running in a VM on a dedicated server with only 256MB RAM so that might slow it down...
11:24 clklein: How long has it been running?
11:24 samth: with only 256 it will be slow
11:24 bamccaig: I don't remember. When did I ask about the --disable-gracket option. :D I think close to 2 hours ago...
11:25 bamccaig: It looks like it's building a ton of things... I would have expected the default target to do that...
11:26 bamccaig: Actually, more like 380MB RAM, but the swap partition (looks like 512 ish MB) looks nearly full too. :(
11:27 clklein: It's probably building the documentation, which takes forever. I don't know for sure, but the executable part of the installation might already be installed and usable by this point.
11:27 samth: what is the current output?
11:29 bamccaig: The latest line: raco setup: re-rendering: scribblings/guide/guide.scrbl
11:29 samth: so (a) it's building documentation (b) it's almost done and (c) probably racket works already
11:29 bamccaig: Cool. :)
11:33 bamccaig: "Rendering?" Is that graphical?
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11:40 clklein: It's building HTML, PDF, or something I think.
11:40 bamccaig: :(
11:41 clklein: Yea, some kind of animated 3D docs would be more fun
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12:19 samth: just html
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12:39 bamccaig: Just man pages. >:(
12:40 bamccaig: Well, it's done building at least... I should probably go and delete all of that useless documentation now. :D
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14:07 stamourv: tewk: can the heap shrink if it's less than X% used?
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15:50 samth: eli, ping
15:53 samth: eli, I would like to be able to do (_or-null _string)
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16:59 samth: eli, I also want a function from an _enum type and a symbol to an integer
17:10 samth: eli, I also want subtyping for _pointer types
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19:05 tewk: stamourv: Yes, the VM doesn't hold on to memory it isn't using.
19:06 tewk: tewk: racket's heap is made up of pages, much like an OS.
19:06 tewk: If a page is empty, it is returned to the OS.
19:07 stamourv: ok
19:07 stamourv: samth ran some measurements, and even after a garbage collection that freed a lot of space, the os still said racket had the memory
19:09 tewk: We do cache empty pages so they might not be returned immediately, it may take a 1 or 2 major collections for the memory to be returned to the OS.
19:10 stamourv: I see
19:10 stamourv: thanks
19:10 tewk: Returning memory to the OS and immediately asking for it back, is expensive.  Especially when places are enabled.
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