00:03 (join) veer 00:04 (quit) veer: Client Quit 00:05 (quit) sstrickl: Quit: sstrickl 01:53 (nick) bartwe -> bartwe_ 04:56 (join) masm 06:26 (join) Glendaal 06:32 (join) Glendaal|Cenando 06:32 (part) Glendaal|Cenando 06:33 (quit) Glendaal: Ping timeout: 264 seconds 06:34 (join) Glendaal 07:30 (quit) masm: Quit: Leaving. 09:32 (join) sstrickl 09:49 (quit) Glendaal: Read error: Connection reset by peer 11:10 (join) davazp 11:19 (quit) davazp: Remote host closed the connection 11:56 (join) jonrafkind 11:56 (quit) sstrickl: Quit: sstrickl 11:57 (quit) jonrafkind: Remote host closed the connection 11:57 (join) jonrafkind 12:10 (join) Glendaal 12:10 Glendaal: Hi 12:11 askhader: Hello 12:13 (join) sstrickl 12:33 (join) carleastlund 13:23 clklein: This is probably more of an OS X question than a Racket question, but I'll ask anyway... 13:24 clklein: When I launch DrRacket from the Dock, (system "echo $PATH") produces "/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin" 13:25 clklein: When I launch DrRacket from a terminal, (system "echo $PATH") produces something different (and better!) 13:25 carleastlund: Yep. The Dock doesn't run your login scripts. A shell does. 13:26 carleastlund: I don't know of any easy way to fix this, sadly. 13:28 clklein: carleastlund: This plist business looks promising: http://superuser.com/questions/28344/path-env-variable-on-mac-os-x-and-or-eclipse 13:41 (quit) clklein: Remote host closed the connection 14:01 (join) clklein 14:04 clklein: clklein: FYI, creating an ~/.MacOS/environment.plist with my PATH did the trick. 14:11 (join) masm 14:21 askhader: Quick racketers, name a color that is not blue, red, orange, purple or white and would appear visible on a white background! 14:21 carleastlund: green 14:22 askhader: sorry not-green. 14:22 askhader: But that's okay, I used mauve =] 14:27 spoofy: black 14:27 spoofy: goddammit 14:27 clklein: How does standard-module-name-resolver choose what directories to search? The racket executable is now in the path DrRacket sees, but (system "racket") complains it can't find "racket" in any of: (#) 14:28 clklein: I'm guessing there should be more paths in that list. 14:39 carleastlund: clklein, I am confused, are you looking for a path to a binary or a path to a collection? 14:41 clklein: carleastlund: I'm executing the "racket" executable. `system' finds it and runs it, but I get an error because the "racket" collection can't be found. 14:42 (quit) Glendaal: Ping timeout: 264 seconds 14:42 carleastlund: Ah. Okay. I see. 14:42 carleastlund: Is your PLTCOLLECTS environment variable set at all? 14:43 samth: clklein, look at the value of (current-library-collection-paths) 14:43 (join) anRch 14:43 clklein: carleastlund: No, but it's also not set in my terminal's environment, if that's significant. 14:44 clklein: samth: '(# #) 14:44 clklein: (As reported by DrRacket's REPL) 14:45 clklein: I guess the racket I'm running via system can't see ~/git/plit/collects. 14:57 clklein: bbl 15:30 (quit) anRch: Quit: anRch 16:45 (join) Joe__ 16:46 Joe__: Anybody who has developed your web site in Racket? 16:46 askhader: Yes 16:47 Joe__: In addition, does Racket have DBMS - mysql, sort of - module? 16:47 askhader: Yes 16:47 askhader: I use it. 16:47 Joe__: Hi, askhader. 16:47 askhader: Helll 16:47 Joe__: Cool. 16:47 askhader: Hello* 16:47 askhader: I wouldn't touch web-development if I didn't have racket. 16:47 Joe__: I just met Racket, and am testing it. 16:47 askhader: On the contrary, Racket is testing you =] 16:48 Joe__: I found it's a perfect and attractive language. 16:48 askhader: Far from perfect. 16:48 askhader: Attractive yes 16:48 Joe__: In my project for web crawling, members prefer python. 16:49 Joe__: But, Racket, i think, could be a good solution. 16:49 askhader: Although racket is not a functional programming language; it has functional properties which makes it ideal for web-crawling. 16:49 Joe__: Wow. 16:49 jonrafkind: are you sure its not a functional programming language? 16:49 bremner: askhader: do you mean a "pure" functional language? 16:49 askhader: Yes. 16:49 bremner: just remove ! from your keyboard 16:49 askhader: In contrast with something like haskell. 16:49 Joe__: Racket is a function language. isn't it? 16:50 askhader: That's not quite what I meant. 16:50 askhader: bremner: And yes =P 16:50 jonrafkind: you could make it purely functional pretty easily, just dont provide set! or anything like it 16:50 askhader: Like I said, it is capable of being functional. 16:50 Joe__: Aha. 16:50 Joe__: I hate set! operator. 16:50 askhader: Hate is a strug word. 16:51 askhader: strong, rather. 16:51 Joe__: ;) 16:51 Joe__: anyway, askhader, where can I find tutorial on working with mysql? 16:51 Joe__: in Racket. 16:52 askhader: There is no tutorial but the documentation is rather complete. 16:52 askhader: Hold on. 16:52 Joe__: I couldn't find any tutorial. Thanks. 16:52 askhader: Joe__: http://planet.racket-lang.org/package-source/jaz/mysql.plt/1/6/planet-docs/manual/index.html 16:52 askhader: Joe__: And http://planet.racket-lang.org/display.ss?package=mysql.plt&owner=jaz 16:53 Joe__: Wow, Cool! Thanks a lot! 16:53 askhader: My pleasure. 16:53 askhader: if you have any specific questions, feel free to ping me. 16:53 askhader: I will respond, eventually. 16:54 Joe__: Thanks, 16:54 Joe__: Are you here all the time? 16:54 askhader: My irssi session never closes. 16:54 Joe__: Wow. 16:54 askhader: So for example, I'm about to embark on a 1.5 hour journey, but I will see your messages when I return, if you ping me properly. 16:55 Joe__: Thanks. 16:55 Joe__: Do you have your blog where you write on making a web in Racket, sort of. 16:56 askhader: Yes, but it's not live yet. 16:56 Joe__: ;) 16:56 askhader: mysql integration with my racket-based website is just the tip of the iceburg. 16:56 Joe__: Wow. 16:57 askhader: I've been writing scheme/racket apps for the greater part of a year- suddenly with a few small changes they can all become the extension of my website. 16:58 Joe__: What do you mean by a few small change? is it in language itself? or ... 16:58 askhader: Well, I'll give you an example before I leave for my bus. 16:58 Joe__: Thanks! 16:59 Joe__: Rackt, I think, is as a productive language as Python. 16:59 askhader: I am part of a University club that has a pretty active irc channel. For fun, I wrote a scheme app that parses logs in real time and performs statistical analysis of the channel. In the past I would have to invoke the script each time I wanted it to render html. Now, by simply modularizing it, I can have it update automagically to my web page. 17:00 Joe__: Fantastic. 17:00 askhader: My thoughts exactly. 17:00 Joe__: ;) 17:00 askhader: Anyhow, I'm gone. 17:00 askhader: Take care, and best of luck 17:00 (quit) sstrickl: Quit: sstrickl 17:00 Joe__: Thanks, askhader. 17:00 Joe__: have a good trip! 17:57 (join) kgh6a 18:03 (part) kgh6a 18:03 (join) kgh6a 18:04 kgh6a: hi i'd like to distribute my racket script as a stand-alone program using raco exe 18:04 kgh6a: but it's so slow at startup 18:04 kgh6a: is there any way to make it faster? 18:04 jonrafkind: how slow is it? 18:05 kgh6a: it takes half a second 18:05 kgh6a: just to print hello world 18:05 jonrafkind: hm, let me build a test exe 18:06 jonrafkind: ok yea i see the same behavior, 1.4s to print hello world 18:06 kgh6a: is it normal behavior? 18:07 kgh6a: i see it's normal 18:07 jonrafkind: chandler, i jsut realized why arch linux broke racket 18:07 jonrafkind: they ran 'strip' on all the executables 18:08 jonrafkind: kgh6a, i dont use it that much so im not really sure. do you want to file a bug report about it? 18:08 jonrafkind: http://bugs.racket-lang.org/ 18:08 kgh6a: no, i don't know enough about it and i am not fluent in English 18:09 jonrafkind: i can file it for you, but basically you just haev to say that creating a program that prints "hello wrold" should not have a startup time longer than a few milliseconds 18:09 jonrafkind: your english seems perfectly fine to me 18:09 kgh6a: oh thanks 18:10 kgh6a: my english is just fine, i just realized 18:10 jonrafkind: yes :p 18:11 kgh6a: i run the same script on Gambit-C 18:12 kgh6a: it took much less than that of racket 18:12 jonrafkind: you can add that to the bug report 18:12 jonrafkind: run 'time' on it to see exactly how much time it takes 18:14 kgh6a: so, it is a bug, i couldn't make sure whether it is. 18:15 jonrafkind: basically its an issue that should be looked into 18:15 jonrafkind: it doesnt have to be a confirmed bug 18:20 (quit) carleastlund: Quit: carleastlund 18:51 (join) Glendaal 18:51 Glendaal: Hi 18:56 (quit) jonrafkind: Ping timeout: 240 seconds 19:24 (quit) kgh6a: Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) 19:58 (quit) masm: Quit: Leaving. 21:00 (join) acarrico 21:01 acarrico: How do you increase the size of the "Variables" pane in the debugger? 21:02 acarrico: This is in DrScheme. 4.2.4. 21:02 acarrico: I can increase it vertically, but not horizontally. 21:06 (quit) Glendaal: 21:54 (join) jeresis 22:06 (quit) jeresis: Quit: Page closed