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13:33 chandler: Hello, folks. I didn't realize this channel was set up.
13:33 chandler: I assume lisppaste would be a good idea?
13:34 jonrafkind: you control lisppaste?
13:34 chandler: Yup.
13:34 jonrafkind: ok i dont mind if he joins
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14:12 r2q2: is the racket binary still being worked on it hasn't reached the racket lang site.
14:12 r2q2: ?
14:51 mattmight: re: http://www.racket-lang.org/  very nice
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15:20 j3parker: your new logo is a neat idea but the implementation is lacking... that damn shading looks crappy in print :(
15:24 j3parker: a very quick hack-job: http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~j3parker/plt/ without the shading it would be less visually confusing and print better (and look fine in black & white)
15:25 j3parker: (not intended to be a definitive proposal. note the poor spacing of the parens and artifacts in the logo etc. just a rough idea)
15:30 j3parker: s/proposal/product
17:20 r2q2: I would work on something with a racket
17:20 r2q2: like a lambda racket possibly
17:21 chandler: I think the head racketeers wanted to avoid something that tied "racket" down to one particular meaning.
17:22 chandler: Despite that, I think either a racket with a lambda pattern on the string, or a racket with a tennis ball with a lambda pattern on it would be cute logos (and icons).
17:25 r2q2: oh alright just a thought
17:30 r2q2: It seems like the version that has #lang racket isn't up yet
17:33 chandler: Yes, it rather looks like they're in the middle of the switch-over.
17:34 jonrafkind: j3parker, just curios, how did you know to come here?
17:34 j3parker: jonrafkind: the new website has a mention somewhere of this channel.
17:35 jonrafkind: oh on the community page, ok excellent!!
17:35 jonrafkind: we should put up the webchat thing too
17:36 j3parker: hm, you are guys are going srs bsns on this aren't you?
17:37 jonrafkind: its for realz
17:37 j3parker: p.s., does PLT have a procedure setup for mirrors? the uwaterloo computer science club runs a very large mirror and we have thrown around the idea of contacting you guys many times (our first year curriculum is in plt scheme)
17:37 jonrafkind: eli would know
17:38 j3parker: alright (not my dept. either but i figured i'd ask anyway :P)
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18:09 eliyahu: jonrafkind: cute
18:09 jonrafkind: yes
18:11 eli: eliyahu: mu
18:11 eli: eliyahu: mu
18:11 eli: eliyahu: mu
18:12 eli: j3parker: Email me.  (BTW, we already have 3 mirrors in the us.)
18:12 j3parker: eli: address?
18:13 j3parker: (we are also in NA (specifically canada))
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18:13 eli: j3parker: I know.
18:13 eli: And eli@barzilay.org
18:14 eli: Today would be a good day to email me since I'm working on just that code, btw.
18:16 eli: jonrafkind: !
18:16 jonrafkind: so emailing you is like todo list?
18:17 drhodes: hmmm, I thought racket was a somewhat nefarious scheme
18:17 eli: Yes.  I was about to ask that you'll mail me that link.
18:17 j3parker: eli: emailed the relevant people to email you. thanks!
18:17 jonrafkind: oh ok, can send you an email with all my current requests
18:17 eli: j3parker: Who?
18:17 j3parker: eli: our sysadmins
18:18 eli: jonrafkind: Also, why does it have to be elsewhere?  Isn't it possible to just grab the whole thing?
18:18 jonrafkind: uhm... what?
18:18 jonrafkind: are we talking about freenode webchat or the irc logs?
18:18 eli: j3parker: It's better to have a contact who's actually interested in maintaining a mirror, not to leave it to indifferent sysadmins.
18:19 eli: The web thing
18:19 jonrafkind: "grab the whole thing" -- what does that mean
18:19 eli: Put the JS code, and the rest of the junk.
18:19 jonrafkind: thats what the iframe is for
18:19 eli: iframes are super lame.
18:20 jonrafkind: ok well.. i guess you can pull the JS and run your own
18:20 eli: Might as well leave it like that, given that it's at freenode anyway.
18:20 j3parker: eli: we are a student club and the sysadmins are students. they enjoy maintaining the mirror (we have to continually fight the school to get bandwidth (we have a lot)) i'm simply not at school this term so there are better people to handle it.
18:21 eli: j3parker: Oh ok.  (Just that I have experience with the route of assigning a generic sysadmin, and from there the road to a dumped mirror is short.)
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18:40 Eliyahu: jonrafkind: it even works on a stupid iPad.
18:40 jonrafkind: you have an ipad??
18:40 Eliyahu: Can you mention this Nick?
18:41 jonrafkind: Eliyahu, has an ipad
18:44 eli: jonrafkind: Yes I have one, and don't even think about dragging it into talking about that cursed thing.
18:45 jonrafkind: f
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21:17 JoelMcCracken: is there any way to get involved with racket as an outsider?
21:22 carleastlund: Certainly.  The easiest way is to subscribe to the developer's mailing list; we discuss development and our release process there, and there are a number of "outsiders" who contribute there -- both in discussion and in code.  Plus, of course, anyone is welcome to upload Planet packages, so that's another way to contribute code that anyone can use.
21:22 JoelMcCracken: ah, true, I didn't really consider planet
21:22 carleastlund: The mailing list links are all here: http://www.plt-scheme.org/community.html
21:24 JoelMcCracken: Thanks! i've been on plt-scheme for quite a while, but didn't think to join dev
21:25 carleastlund: With the 5.0 release that is coming soon, "plt-scheme" will become "users@racket-lang.org" and "plt-dev" will become "dev@racket-lang.org", highlighting the intent of each mailing list.  We don't think the average users want to see our release process, and so forth, but it's all available to anyone who's interested.  :)
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22:21 r2q2: Is it mostly a branding thing
22:21 r2q2: scheme -> racket
22:21 r2q2: Or are we going to see a significant change
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